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cameron slow to start

Postby polkco_countryboy » Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:53 pm

i have a cameron bred male dog that is 10 months old and I just can not get the dog to get out and hunt will not get to far from me in woods. does good on cage coons but will not run a track. just wounderin if some in this breed are slow starters or should i move on.
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Re: cameron slow to start

Postby buckshot » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:30 pm

I had a cameron male that was a slow starter, wasn't intersted in wanting to hunt, just play before the light bulb decided to come on.
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Re: cameron slow to start

Postby cobalt » Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:42 pm

Have you tried letting the coon go and cutting him loose on it after the coon is out of sight? Or dragging the cage through the brush and hanging it in a tree? Or scent drags? Or other exercises that take you out of the picture. If you've done too much cage work, it might have set him back as far as getting out there and looking on his own. If you've done too much obedience work without hunting him, that may be it, too. Get him in the woods and comfortable being away from you. In my opinion, if he is serious about the caged coon, he's already a started dog.
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Re: cameron slow to start

Postby blueticker78 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 4:34 pm

I think cobalt hit it. turn a coon loose for him if he is agressive on a caged coon hes ready you just need to teach him to look for his own tracks and then trail them start by putting that coon in a cage in the same spot for a couple hours so the scent lingers then make a drag for him with the caged coon in a tree. walk him over the spot that you left the coon sit for awhile untill he shows interest and or strikes then let him go. let him tree a little praise him good then bring him and the coon home and give him a day to think it over, after he had a day or two to process it do the same thing only before you get close to the spot you had the coon sitting let him go and he should find it on his own this will start getting him out there and looking for tracks hes probally afraid to range out right now because like cobalt said over discipline to early or just lack of confidence yet to be away from you,but this drill will build some confidence then the third time let the coon go try to start in the early morning in an open field so the coon runs away before treeing the third time take him off the leash way in advance and slowly walk on the spot he should get it this time, from here the next time if you like you can start off a dirt road with the rig driving up and down till he strikes or becomes alert of the track or you can road him and I bet he will catch on I start all my dogs using this process then from the road traing I start training them to cold trail.
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Re: cameron slow to start

Postby polkco_countryboy » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:37 pm

i have only let him see two caged coon dont want him to get use to it. let him fight one coon and he was real agressive with it. have layed scent drags and hang in tree went to the tree with nose in air stood up on tree but never barked. took him hunting with othere dogs one night and watche he smell on ground and then jump up on treee never barked but shined treee and coon in tree. he would strike on were turned caged coon loose with other dogs but when turned loose never barked just would jump on tree with other dogs and thanks for coments guess i need to give him some more time before givin up i also took him to sc to the bear bay and he did good there also
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Re: cameron slow to start

Postby jaws » Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:48 pm

At 10 months he's just a pup. Be patient and just give him time in the woods and stage a hunt for him once in a while with a trapped coon. I dont let my dogs see the cage. I just take coon to woods were coon was not caught and release. I also dump water on coon sometimes. Makes scent alot stronger. It will click one of these days. If he was over 2 years old I would be concerned but not before that. JMO
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Re: cameron slow to start

Postby blueticker78 » Mon Apr 26, 2010 11:14 pm

Pups go thru phases too like teenagers I've had some good dogs that started fast at about 4to5 months then they go thru this stage where they like to play you just have to be patient and that stage has usually been between 10 months and a year.I usually put them up for a couple weeks and don't mess with them besides for feeding and then I'll start working them again but for a few months I only interact with them when hunting and feeding and thell calm back down and get to buisness
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Re: cameron slow to start

Postby Bticked » Tue Apr 27, 2010 2:20 am

We all want early starting pups but they are all different. I think the others are right in that he's only ten months and sounds like he's doing ok. I'm far from being able to give good advice but I have a cameron much older than yours that has been running tracks with the older dogs since 5 months but has not done much of anything by himself. He would not bark on trail at all and he would be at the tree but not even treeing. Last week he decided he would ride the rig all on his own. He's starting to gain confindence and thats what its all about for a dog. Pet him when he does good, sounds like he'll get the hang of it just fine, if not, call me, I might buy him lol.

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Re: cameron slow to start

Postby polkco_countryboy » Tue Apr 27, 2010 10:55 am

thanks for replys everyone guess i will just have to be patient this is the first dog i have spent that kinda money on and guess i just wanna see some kinda action

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