Who has the right to say they have an original strain
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houndnhorse
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain
The problem is, by the time you convince everyone that you have it, you have probably lost it. 
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain
I've heard that Van Johnson's strain(esp. the blue colored ones) come from Sm. Riv. Diamond Jim.
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain
Dont know who would have the original strain of blues.
But IMO to have your own strain or line with in a breed or just mix bred you have to have been line breeding long enough that there is some kind of identifiable consistancy in the offspring like body structure, size, color.
Establishing ones own line is near impossible to do without some outside help. Like horsenhound said by the time you got it, you lost it haha
But IMO to have your own strain or line with in a breed or just mix bred you have to have been line breeding long enough that there is some kind of identifiable consistancy in the offspring like body structure, size, color.
Establishing ones own line is near impossible to do without some outside help. Like horsenhound said by the time you got it, you lost it haha
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain
How about the term dryground? Dryground is dry ground in an arid envronment, 10-15% relative humidity or less. All else is bareground, yet it is missused every day also.
yes it is. this mix up of terms can be misleading dry ground and bare ground are totally different animals most times. here if I go to the higher altitudes I can find bare ground and its easier on the hounds but you get a cat traveling through the lower hill country and thats dry ground for sure. I get a kick out of "dry" ground lion pics with the cat sittin in a big ol' evergreen either they trailed that cat a looong ways or it's bare ground.
yes it is. this mix up of terms can be misleading dry ground and bare ground are totally different animals most times. here if I go to the higher altitudes I can find bare ground and its easier on the hounds but you get a cat traveling through the lower hill country and thats dry ground for sure. I get a kick out of "dry" ground lion pics with the cat sittin in a big ol' evergreen either they trailed that cat a looong ways or it's bare ground.
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain
Hi,
Well to my understanding, you get to have a strain when you get contant with what you are looking for, for example, the offsprings of your hounds have the same confromation, intelligence, mouth, nose, track, etc.
Just like Cameron´s hounds, he bread to his own standard, he culled what other people wouldn´t of culled, but you see a pic, and usually you can say that´s a cameron hound!,
Like Cascade hounds, they came from Cameron, but he is breeding according to him what should be best for his likings, and in not the so long run, we are going to see that his hounds are difrent than cameron´s because he might keep a hound that Cameron might cull, and viceversa, he might cull a hound that Cameron might keep.
Hope I made my self clear, as you can see I am from Mexico, and english is my second language.
Saludos
Minero
Well to my understanding, you get to have a strain when you get contant with what you are looking for, for example, the offsprings of your hounds have the same confromation, intelligence, mouth, nose, track, etc.
Just like Cameron´s hounds, he bread to his own standard, he culled what other people wouldn´t of culled, but you see a pic, and usually you can say that´s a cameron hound!,
Like Cascade hounds, they came from Cameron, but he is breeding according to him what should be best for his likings, and in not the so long run, we are going to see that his hounds are difrent than cameron´s because he might keep a hound that Cameron might cull, and viceversa, he might cull a hound that Cameron might keep.
Hope I made my self clear, as you can see I am from Mexico, and english is my second language.
Saludos
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Re: Who has the right to say they have an original strain
Let me ask another question... If we take a winning strand or line of dogs and don't hunt or cull just reproduce them what will we have after ten generations? Will it match the original designed for a purpose?
My point proves only one thing. Dogs are only as good as the breeder. That's why, after generations, a breeder like Del Cameron is famous. His selectiveness engineered what we now hold as a fine example of a big game mountain hound. We as houndsmen must attempt to only breed the best examples we can find and not breed without purpose. I am not the expert and I don't know how to do everything right. Not yet, but I will keep trying.
My point proves only one thing. Dogs are only as good as the breeder. That's why, after generations, a breeder like Del Cameron is famous. His selectiveness engineered what we now hold as a fine example of a big game mountain hound. We as houndsmen must attempt to only breed the best examples we can find and not breed without purpose. I am not the expert and I don't know how to do everything right. Not yet, but I will keep trying.
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