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UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 8:30 pm
by big saint
I am going to be trialing a 3yr old that is uchtman/hammer bread... I have always had grade dogs and was curious to see what people thought of these lines, and of the cross. Any input is appriciated. Thanks
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Wed Feb 02, 2011 11:44 pm
by 007pennpal
Those are good lines for coons. What game are you after? Hope your dog pans out.
Sean
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 12:57 am
by big saint
Sean... Coon for the most part, although i wouldnt mind runnin a short tail once in a while either, but coon for the majority.
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:24 am
by RandTMcKnight
I have an eight year old female with those bloodlines and she does great on cats, I was told she does real good on coons also but where I live there are not too many of them around.
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:28 pm
by Trueblue
Uchtmann and Hammer are a couple well respected names in the bluetick breed.Dave Dean,founder of the the Hammer dogs is legendary in my book.Dogs out of those lines can excel no matter what game you want to chase.Anyone who tells you they aren't good for anything but coons hasn't hunted behind many blue dogs!
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:35 pm
by Rowdy
Hammer Bred, owned by Mike Richie. I hunted with Mike and these dogs impressed me.
They treed eight lions and one bobcat in two weeks of hunting.
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Thu Feb 03, 2011 3:23 pm
by cobalt
Those 2 line are wide and diverse. They were both started between 40 and 50 years ago and you can find many different variations within each line and when you mix them you get even more variation. In any case it is hard to say what your dog's potential is without seeing its papers and the parents in the woods. I like both lines as a whole and have caught big and small game with both for a long time. I just did an Uchtman/Hammer cross 6 mo. ago and I think it could be one of the best I've ever seen. Good Luck.
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:36 pm
by big saint
I got 7 generation papers on the dog... What are some good names from back in the day to look for??
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 10:34 pm
by cobalt
Jet V, Hammer X (if you have one Hammer, you have all the other hammers preceding him), Coz Spare time Spanky, N. Bl. Levi
Uchtman's Scout, Flash, Fly, Ranger I-V, Hawk
Post the 8 dogs in the 3rd Gen.
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:03 am
by 007pennpal
Wasn't trying to say blue dogs are only good for coon. Was just saying that those lines were proven for coon. Of course it is a fact that you can take blue dogs and selectively breed for traits fitting a chase of any species.
Sean
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 2:33 pm
by cobalt
I would say the majority of big game hounds are rooted in coon soil. Good breeding practices can propagate dogs that do it all.
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 4:59 pm
by mtime34
ANyone have a female for sale with some of these bloodline? preferably a pupp or a younger hound
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 5:49 pm
by big saint
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 7:33 pm
by cobalt
Looks like a lot of good potential to make a nice dog. The Hammer blood on the bottom should make an early starting, game crazy, treeing machine. The top side I'm not familiar with, but if they go back to Hawk and Ranger, that's good. The Smiley's Bl. Angel may be a descendant of Smiley's Bl. Rambo II, a great dog and a producer of some cold nosed dogs. I'd be suprized if your dog doesn't have what it takes, but not all dogs of great blood make it and even with great blood and talent, training is what makes good dogs. Good luck to ya.
Re: UCHTMAN/HAMMER
Posted: Tue Feb 08, 2011 8:21 pm
by big saint
This is my first papered dog, what are all the 'PR' GRCH GRNITECH and NITECH titles?? Thanks