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wondering what everyones opinions are on the bear hounds out west vs the ones in the east. just figured this would make for some good talk being that from what i understand you guys out west run on a lot of dry ground for bears. wondering if theres colder nosed dogs out there?

the dogs out here are way better, lol. i have never heard of not running dry ground for bear. i think a mean bear is a mean bear no matter where u are. terain and brush can make a difference . this should be a good topic . if it dont turn into a hang off.

jc

haha i was waiting for that comment that there better out west lol, i don't consider land in the north east to be dry ground really, between the rain and snow. in the summer when we train some days i would consider it dry ground with its 70-80 at night and it hasn't rained at all i know my hound has a hard time picking it unless its around 5 hour old track or less. and i consider him a med-cold nose hound.

My vote is for the hounds in the north-central U.S.

My vote is for the dog sitting under the tree no matter where its from.

That has so many variables its going to be a long discussion I don't think I'd need a cold nosed hound here for bear but it is dry ground by most any standard . A faster hound with great endurance is where I'd start for bear here then add the other traits but endurance speed and want to seem the top three requirements

Seems like there should be a lot more to say on this one. I'm no expert but here's a guess.

Seems to me that the difference would be more in the strains that people have kept a tight handle on and kept in the different regions east , west, central, south and some of these are likely not registered.


A lot of the dogs that become known to be good, get bought or sold have been shipped back and forth by people looking for better when often they have just as good locally.
Seems like with all the transport and selling or sharing of blood the hounds should be quite similar when raised and used in which ever area.

thats what i was wondering being as to me it seems your running in the west is harder on the dry ground, so when you guys come across a real cold nose track driving hound and keep that blood close makes me think they have colder nosed hounds in the west. curiosity got the best of me thats why i started this topic but most of all eventually thinking of getting a hound from the west to bring back to the northeast.

coastrangecathunting wrote:the dogs out here are way better, lol. i have never heard of not running dry ground for bear. i think a mean bear is a mean bear no matter where u are. terain and brush can make a difference . this should be a good topic . if it dont turn into a hang off.

jc

X2 on the mean bear, the percentage of bear dogs increases tremendously with the run and tree type bears. I believe a true bear dog starts on the ground and if they have it you still go to trees no matter where you run. Judge your dogs by what type you can handle. If a dog can handle mean on the east it can handle mean on the west. I do think the brush and cover can determine what type of dog you have.

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Hey NY walkers i have a couple litter mate walkers that were almost a year and a half last training season in ny, had them on over 20 bears they were from arizona and line bred off sampson, check out my post my nance hounds on bear in ny, they sure ran good here!!

Dogs don't know east from west.

I think if you buy a dog from out west for nose power just because they're from out west, you may be disappointed. Buyer beware.
I know guys who run bear all over out west and many of them aren't interested in cold nose and do very well without it. Grit and speed on the other hand.......
I believe you can find cold noses from coast to coast, you just need to find em. I also believe that the cold nosed type of trailing that is productive in the south west is not what a guy might want for bear hunting in the northeast, other than starting tracks. Not to say you can't find the exact right dog for you from there.