"Get up and run"??

[T.Parker]

Pardon my Ignorance, I am a cur dog man and having never hunted Bear I have come across this term several times now and wondered what it means?

Could a few of yall please explain what is meant by a dog "making a bear get up and run"? are these dogs tracking to the bear, finding it at ground and busting bay in order to tire the bear? I could imagine that a bear in a tree is more desired than a bear on the ground but I want to see if im understanding your terminology and the mechanics of a bear hunt.

I have seen a few dogs (not one breed in particular, but across the board) used in hog hunting that have loads of bottom, but have watched them at a bay and seen that some seem to always be interested in busting the hog out of a settled bay to run him again and have often wondered if that is a benefit in the quarry the dog was designed to run?

[Old dog]

from my experience, a bear only runs as hard as it is getting pushed. maybe they are saying they have a fast dog? personally I would rather have the dogs get to the bear as a pack and put him up. some bear hunters like to have a extra gritty dog that gets all cut up. I have seen these kind of dogs grab the bear off the tree when it tries to climb resulting in a bear that gets up and runs all day? jmo

[pegleg]

i'm not a bear hunter but have run a few. and i admit bears can be very athletic. but for the most part they just do what they feel they have to and no more. i once saw a bear "get up n run" but it was mostly accidental. i had just started up a small ridge out of a bottom and most of my hounds where to my right or the higher draw while two pups were playing grab ass around me. well it wasn't very far and one stuck his nose out and went down the left side and started baying at this little bear and the second pup bailed off to join in . i watched them for a bit and then he noticed us and started back the way we had come . i called the other dogs in and started back down the trail . i figured we could probably scare him bad enough he would hop right up the nearest tree. so as they went past the base of the ridge i whooped and let out after it. now it wasn't pasture flat but it was smooth enough to get some steam going and that horse was grunting coming down that trail and that bear lit out across the little valley in high gear. we could not catch him. we'd gain just a hair and he'd switch direction by a few degrees and gain. we hit the manzanita brush and oaks on the other side, ploughed a landing strip into them thirty yards got stopped and retraced our path before the first hound showed up. i hadn't quite made up my mind on weather we were going to run this bear or continue on so i let them by and went back out to the open to do my thinking with out dodging branches. first thing i noticed is that those two pups are standing over where we ran through them at the trail. tails between their legs backing up, one even stood up on his hind legs a bit to see better. but it was clear they were wondering what the hell had possessed that horse ? so i got to laughing at them and must have hurt their feelings cause they wouldn't come any closer then sixty yards clear up until i got them back to the trailer. they were apologetic and friendly but still dubious about riding in the trailer with a killer horse. which must have been the same impression the bear got because we never treed him and i drove the rest of the day picking up hounds. it did give me some info on bears though. if your hounds are so hard on a bear as some guys claim i can only speculate they would really scare a few bears clear out of the country. granted some bears just don't care and aren't being driven or pushed anywhere they don't wanna go. but it just brings us back to the fact a good hounds job is to find what its sent after and be able to make it easier for the hunter to get in there and make a decision on harvesting it . that may require more thinking on a hounds part then we give them credit for. but either way it seems some flexibility in how they handle each race is required. i also figure it's only reasonable to expect that bigger heavier bears may not be able to run like the younger bears or even be inclined to run like that is they can. i know my inclination to go running seems to diminish a little more each year.

[bearsnva]

"Get up and run" means that bear isn't going to be able to walk in front of the dogs all day long at the pace they choose. He had better make a run for it because those dogs are going to catch him and chew on his butt! Out running them or climbing a tree are his only two options. This is how I have heard the term used.

[T.Parker]

Thanks, that's exactly what I figured it would mean. knowing almost nothing about bear hunting, I would imagine that if the dogs are bayed, itd be ideal for the bear to be up a tree. id also have to imagine a pack of hide pullers probably encourage a bear to climb.