Dogos for Hogs

[Pops]

scott
you're right i mixed up Roger & mike from cazadores. he only has the three bitches & breeds them to his dutch sheperd bandog, but roger does know who has bulldogs from his line & would be able to put him on to some good working ABs.
ralph's dogs were stout blood from Jay. he used to have a message board full of fans some of whome actually caught hogs w/ dogs bred by him. & alan went back to stout blood when he got back into them because the stout dogs were related to his old stuff. heck if art hadn't got raped by the petaphiles i'd have told the OP to talk to him because he used to sell a lot of dogs to hog hunters & had a lot of repeat customers even though his dogs did most of their catching in the pen.

[doghunter]

The search continues I have looked at a total of 10 dogos meet some real nice people and actually got to see a few a year and a half old catch. I was not impressed. They seem more like a gritty cur dog in the catching category. And the year and a half dogs were pen trained (a big pen over 20 acres.) and they would let go and re catch. Just not the lock on type of catch dog I was looking for.

I think everyone is right on when they say dogos are slow starters. (Not to say they won’t finish as great catch dogs just not the bulldogs I am use to.)

You can usually find a good looking male AB but if you look at the Females they breed to you find a lot of flaws.

[doghunter]

Scott I am about an hour north of Tampa (Central Florida).

[Scott]

Pops, a good friend of mine is the same with Roger. He recently did a breeding for Roger off his (Roger's) old stock. For those that like the hybrids, that (Roger or Mitch Allison's) is a good place to go.

I've watched Ralph's board for almost a decade now. Just from watching, I've seen him crawfish, and outright lie so many times that I've lost count. I don't know that he's ever actively worked a dog. He's been down to Jay's 2-4 times total, and it is my understanding, that after the last time that he's not welcomed back. At this point, he's breeding unproven pets. I have asked on numerous occassions on various boards over the years for any of his dogs that are in working homes...I haven't found one yet.

Unfortunately, at this point, Alan breeds his dogs more than he works them.

I agree with you in regards to Art.


Doghunter, I'll send you a pm.

[Bucunter1983]

[hammerinplott]

I'm in the same boat we have hogs now and my pittie is too old to catch broken teeth would make it. Lil rough on her and I'm. Not finding anything worth training as a cd

[Bucunter1983]

[bigboarstopper]

I have to say from some of the responces above that im surprised. A catchdog is the easiest dog to aquire in my experience and those I hunt with. Good ones are easy to find and great ones arent much harder. The only thing I require is something that walks easy on the lead and wont fight. Out of the dozen or so pitbulls at the pound at any given time there are at least 4 or 5 good or great catchdogs in the bunch.

Thats why I dont see the purpose in the Dogo. When I need a catchdog, I need it today and free. Slow starters and big pricetags dont compare to a free dog thats ready to hunt today.

[hammerinplott]

Trust me if my old Pitt still had fangs I wouldn't even be toying with finding a CD she was he!! on pigs or anything I sent her after when younger wish I had kept a pup out of her only litter she drug her house to see my male plott but lost that litter when she was attacked 3weeks before due

[bayhard1]

no i have had to dogos but i have been around a lot of them had a freind that go the dogs from the show ring at three year old and they work ok

[doghunter]

ucunter1983 my ab are just what I want. I am not trying to improve I am just looking for someone else that has a good line so I can get a bitch to breed to. And I agree with bigboarstopper there are a lot of good pits out there if all you are looking for is a dog that will catch a hog.

I have never seen so much trouble with finding a dog to catch. Just get at pit and 99 times out of 100 you have a catch dog that will die before letting go. They also usually have a lot of drive and hunt. They may not be the nose dog everyone wants but for catching you can’t beat their natural abilities.

I am not looking for just a catch dog I am looking for an athletically built catch dog that listens and will let go on command. Our American bulldogs were once upon a time just pits. But they are the white dogs that were used by farmers for cattle and live stock they lived on the farm and coexisted with other dogs and were family pets that usually stayed lose around the house. (I did not get this out of a book or read it on the internet these were my family’s dogs and growing up I used them) Fighting was not tolerated and bred out they were also breed to be bigger and leggier. Now that they are a recognized breed (American Bulldog) everyone is a breeder and they breed for size or looks (usually size) not brains and ability. My dogs are ½ or less of the dogs I was raised with because no one has the big farms to warrant having the bulldogs any longer for anything more than a yard ornament. So I now am breeding to other peoples dogs. One of my best catch dogs has a shorter muzzle than I would like. But that was a tradeoff I had to accept on my last breeding. He is a great dog and does everything I ask otherwise. I included a pic so you can see what I mean if I am able to post. (This is the first pic I have ever put anywhere on the net I have always been against it but I guess the times are changing.)

So I now have to find someone that has good breed bulldogs to go to anyone that can help would be greatly appreciated.[url][/url]

[hammerinplott]

Doghunter I hope you find what your looking for sounds like you've got a good thing going

[Bucunter1983]

Sounds to me like you have a plan and you should stick with it. Hope it works out for ya in the long run. Some people have priorities when it comes to breeding, my isnt in the catchdog's its more in the strike/baydog section. Hope you benefit from your breedings and get some bad a$$ catchogs.

[doghunter]

I have hounds, Silent Bay Dogs and Catch dogs. Right now I am working on my catch dog department.

My hound and silent bay dogs are in good shape. none over 5 years of age most around 2 years. I have learned you have to constantly try to improve your dogs and the best time to get one is when you have a good one if you wait until your in a bad spot it seems like you can never find one anywhere.

The hogs on the box we bayed by either my hounds or my Cur dogs. That bulldog was only used to catch it turned out to be a day filled with a lot of work. I had a few freinds that wanted to kill some hogs and they had a public hunt that the hogs had to be taken out dead. After the first hog and letting them get use to catching with dogs, when the dogs would bay I would say ok go to him after they got about half way to the bay i would send the catch dog and let them end it. usually before they could get the hog to the truck the dogs were on another one and i would have to head him off and let the other truck pick them up, it was one hog after another all weekend. (I think the 2 day total was 11) that was alot in the thick country we were hunting and these hogs ran bad. only about 3 or 4 were over 180 pounds and none had much teath. But it was still alot of fun and they all had plenty of pork for the freezer.

[wtexas88]

Not meaning to ruffle any feathers but here's my opinion the subject. the dogos that i have hunted with and own are by far some of the best dogs i've hunted. Is there anything wrong with a pit bull or american bulldog?..NO i've tried them and seen some good ones but I like the atriibutes that a good dogo possesses... As far a starting late i have not seen it in any of my dogs i normally start mine at 4 months and then take them off till about a year old to let teeth set in. Once they are a year old they are catching anything that we bay up or they wind. I have no dog aggression problems but must admit if another dog bows up or snaps the fight is usually on. I do believe that alot of ppl are puppy milling the dogo and not breeding for functionability similar to what u see in the pit bull and american bulldog....The reason I have good dogo stock is because i saved my pennies and imported proven dogs from a proven hunter which as you all know is not cheap. i do agree that getting pit for a catchdog is economically more sound. As far as finding a dogo to breed to your bulldogs good luck i hope u find a good one it seems like ur dogs are headed the right way. happy hunting