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Very interesting reading.I'v been hunting hogs for over 18 years with dogs.In all sorts of country,catching pigs is not the problem, its the big boars we are all after.Meny times I'v herd the dogs hit a good doar in thickish scrub and not stop him. I know it's not from lack of hart, but ability to find his cent again.So nose is a must.I think if you run houlding dogs with your open mouth dogs the houlding dogs can find the hounds, best of both worlds. looking to import a bluetick to Australia. feed back please.
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If your gonna ship any thing over there I would waste the $5000.00 on a Blue Tick, you will get a nose, but most times they dont make good hog dogs, You need to look into Plotts, you'll get the nose and the grit to be a hog dog. Or you can look into Catahoulas, BMC, Mt. Curs or even Walkers but those are the breeds I would say make the best hog dogs. And to every one eles, We cant say it gets hot hear, this fella from AUS know what hot is. I was told by a friend that lives over there. he's seen 140 degrees, thats hot. And I was gonna ask ya, have ya ever lost a dog to a salty? and I know you guys cant hunt a whole lot at night, just because the salty's and the water buffalo, you guys have more things that'll kill ya then things to hunt LOL
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i definantly understand what you are saying..i would say if he is looking for a dog i wouldn't get a pup anyway. i would get a started to finished dog that has proven itself on hogs, whatever the breed. many of the blueticks from yesteryear are rather slow(and like every breed there are your slow dogs), but many of your blueticks now days are fast track dogs. i would say this, when you build a pack you very rarely will have a dog that does it all for you. you may have a slower dog, but if they have the nose to start the track then your fast dogs take over the track once it gets heated up. i agree with broncobilly as well, he can make a short term fix and make it a long term fix. the plott's i've hunted with haven't been any better than the curs in the nose department, they are way the heck more gritty, but it doesn't sound like he needs that he needs nose.
i'd say find you are finished out or well started dog that has the nose to track up hogs, whatever the breed. usually the way it works is the colder the nose the slower on track because they have to move slow to work the track, the hotter the nose the faster they run because there is more smell. we run my hound with the curs. my hound is fast on track and has medium nose. he will start many tracks and his usually the second one to te bay. we have a garmin so we can see how fast he really is, there is only one dog in our pack that can flat out outrun him(and that dog floats on air...lol). we also like running my hound with the curs because when we get a bay he easily brings the catchdogs to him...being down under makes it really hard for you to see what the dogs can do before you buy it. i say do some research and either get a pup from those lines or get a started dog from those lines and you should be able to fix the problem you are having..
i'd say find you are finished out or well started dog that has the nose to track up hogs, whatever the breed. usually the way it works is the colder the nose the slower on track because they have to move slow to work the track, the hotter the nose the faster they run because there is more smell. we run my hound with the curs. my hound is fast on track and has medium nose. he will start many tracks and his usually the second one to te bay. we have a garmin so we can see how fast he really is, there is only one dog in our pack that can flat out outrun him(and that dog floats on air...lol). we also like running my hound with the curs because when we get a bay he easily brings the catchdogs to him...being down under makes it really hard for you to see what the dogs can do before you buy it. i say do some research and either get a pup from those lines or get a started dog from those lines and you should be able to fix the problem you are having..
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To answer your question, yes there are some very nice blueticks that can get it done on hogs. I hunt two bluetick gyps on hogs. My buddy likes to run his catahoulas with them. Both gyps will rig off the box for hogs. When they open, I drop them off. When they line it out, we pack them up. It works well. If you are looking for a bluetick to get it done, PM for my phone #, and I can help you with proven hog bluetick bloodlines. I have done a good bit of research, and believe I have a good grasp of it. The biggest differene between the hound and the cur is the cur will wind a hog that is close, and the hound will wind where the hog has been. Having a hound in any pack, makes an asset to the team. Nightowl has a silent mouthed bluetick that only opens when looking at a hog. He has stated that the dog can trail above average. They are out there, but they are not in every dog pen out there. If you are going to import one, either buy a finished out dog, or buy from a proven reputible breeder. JMO!!!!
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TRC,
Please don't take any offence to this, but I don't believe that the orgin of the hound or cur has as much to do with it. That is more of an ability to unravel a track. I totally believe that you have seen a few cur dogs that could track a 5 hour old track, but I have seen a lot of blueticks that could. I've got a few that will leave a fast cur dog in the dust if the hog decides to leave the country. Throw the tracker on them, get up close, and you can call them off if that is your desire. Just because it is a hound, does not mean it can not be trained like the "typical" cur. Like I stated before, if you want some info, PM me. I am more than willing to give up some good info. There are always several ways to get something done, it does not mean that one is better than the rest.
Please don't take any offence to this, but I don't believe that the orgin of the hound or cur has as much to do with it. That is more of an ability to unravel a track. I totally believe that you have seen a few cur dogs that could track a 5 hour old track, but I have seen a lot of blueticks that could. I've got a few that will leave a fast cur dog in the dust if the hog decides to leave the country. Throw the tracker on them, get up close, and you can call them off if that is your desire. Just because it is a hound, does not mean it can not be trained like the "typical" cur. Like I stated before, if you want some info, PM me. I am more than willing to give up some good info. There are always several ways to get something done, it does not mean that one is better than the rest.
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Now I did not ever say a blue tick couldnt do it for one, and I didn't say I didn't belive you about your dog. sorry to ofend you.
12 GA,
I know a lot a guys in FL and not a one runs any blue tick and there hound guys and I am too, and I thanks for the offer but I dont need any info on blue ticks or hog huntin, I've got a pretty good resume when it comes to catchin hogs, every one always thinks cause were from CA we dont know what real huntin is, but I have new for ya, we have just as many hogs here as Texas does and twice as rough terrain as N. Fl and S.GA, now like I said I wasnt takin nothin away from the breed, I run all open dogs still have a few that run silent but mostly all open, but to say a cur cant run a five hr track is, well its like saying a coon dog wont tree. I wasnt trying to get into a pissin match but if it starts flowin on my leg I'll start pissin back. we have over 45 years of breeding behind our kennel and 45 years of good dogs = alot of game. Bear, hogs and Cat, your welcome to check Ca out any time give me a shout and we can put on a hog or a bear.
12 GA,
I know a lot a guys in FL and not a one runs any blue tick and there hound guys and I am too, and I thanks for the offer but I dont need any info on blue ticks or hog huntin, I've got a pretty good resume when it comes to catchin hogs, every one always thinks cause were from CA we dont know what real huntin is, but I have new for ya, we have just as many hogs here as Texas does and twice as rough terrain as N. Fl and S.GA, now like I said I wasnt takin nothin away from the breed, I run all open dogs still have a few that run silent but mostly all open, but to say a cur cant run a five hr track is, well its like saying a coon dog wont tree. I wasnt trying to get into a pissin match but if it starts flowin on my leg I'll start pissin back. we have over 45 years of breeding behind our kennel and 45 years of good dogs = alot of game. Bear, hogs and Cat, your welcome to check Ca out any time give me a shout and we can put on a hog or a bear.
Chuck Ferrell & Devil Mt. Plott hounds
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