open or silent??????????????????

[12-GAUGE]

I really think we are all on the same page for the gentleman in Austraila. I don't really hunt around a lot of plotts. I personally don't like a brindled dog. That has nothing to do with their hunt, I personally just don't like that coloration. They may be the perfect dog, but if I'm buying the feed for them, they must suite me in every aspect. To answer your silient vs. open mouthed breeding cross. An open mouth is the dominent gene and the silient is the recessive. That is not to say, that it will not produce a slient pup. However, I personally feel, it may be a 2-4 generation gap before you start to get the silient mouth that you are after. Of coarse, that would depend on your choice of breeding mates. I think all these guys are really giving you good advise. The best thing to do is spell it out exactly like you would like to see it. 75 % of the info, won't be enough. It will take 100 % to get the job done correctly. Most plotts have a tendancy to have a shrill chop mouth, where as most blueticks have a deep bawl. It really depends on your personal prefference as to what you like to listen to. Like I said, what ever you decide, do your research on that specific line. Find out everything to know about the hunt and reproduction of both parents. To answer the hours running question, it really depends. I would venture to say, that they would go all day if the wheather was nice and cool, and the tracks were there. Living in Florida, it gets hot and muggy. A dog can't go all day during the summer, it is just to much heat to deal with. However, in the cooler months, game on. Let the dogs loose in the morning, and tie hogs until your tired. Good luck with your research.

12-Gauge

[ChazK]

[Younghoundsmen]

Im not gonna lie nothing sounds better than hearing those cold nosed hounds jump a big hog up and run him for awhile. I prefer open dogs so much more, But I would like 2 have me a few of those Jags. They look pretty bad 2 the bone

[longshot]

Lots or MOST jagds will run open.

Longshot

[Younghoundsmen]

[longshot]

That depends on the Jagd. Mine 2 have a nose colder than my cur dogs and will bay a big hog but wont even bark at smaller hogs.


Some jagds will catch harder than your pits! I like to keep them on a hog 4X their size when they are a puppy.
Longshot

[stevemac]

Just read this topic and cant help myself have to make comment to get it of my chest open mouth dogs are not popular at all here in the land of Ozz and I have owned hunted open mouth hounds , and while they caught plenty of fur fox and others I have never caught as many pigs with them as I have with fast silent dogs, as Ive got older I have learned to hate running more and more so silent hot nosed fast dogs are the way to go for me.
I must say that pig hunting in australia has to double as pest control so the more you can catch the better the cockies like it. so running a pig for half a day and scaring the rest away just isnt on.
I do agree though lissening to a good pack of hounds is pur music.

[three rivers catahoulas]

well I used to like nothin but a silent dog, but it was a lot smaller country I was huntin, now the counrty I'm hntin is big, real big. And I'm running nothin but plotts that are wide open on track and they are super fast, they catch just about every thing they start JUST ABOUT, but I like the open dogs now, they tell me what way there headin. But I like'em fast and rough and I like a more open mouthed dog now too. I have a few dogs that a silent, I have a Leopard cur X Walker X BMC that I got from Boar Runner, he's silent the whole time even at the bay, but at the bay he's got a mouth full of hide LOL. Bob I still have that 22 for ya if ya still want it.

[waylon]

silent,fast and ugly thats what i like. the uglier the dog the better i like em, not yellow black mouth ugly even i got limits

[deano]

We have 4,000 acres with a mix of 30% pines 40% hardwoods and 30% of the most hellish swamps than run about 2 miles. We have been using curs and our kill to hunt ratio is about 1 kill per 10 hunts. I guide hunts for a living 4 months out of the year and unhappy clients make me feel unhappy as well. We have been running 3 track dogs and hold the catch dogs. The stinkin hogs just about always get away from the dogs. We have run them as much as 3 miles without catching the hog. Our dogs are silent until they see the hog then open until they bay. We run 1 Cat/Plott, 1 Blackmouth/Mountain Cur, 1 Cat/Blackmouth. We have been thinking about going to treeing walkers or blue ticks so they will stay long enough to get the hog bayed where we can catch it. Most of the hogs break as soon as they here the 4-wheeller then it's on again. We just need our dogs to stay withem until they stop. Any suggestion for these runninhogs.

Blackhogdown

[bigboarstopper]

Mabye rougher dogs. Our hogs in central cali dont stop anymore. they have seen the dogs before and run every time. We have been going to shorter range rougher dogs and its shortened the race substantially with a higher success rate. Of course if your hog population is relatively small (1 hog every 10 hunts) than I think that is more or less the problem.

[Idcurs]

Fast track dogs can't make a hog stop unless he wants to stop--wow did I read that right?When the fast dog is putting holes in the boars rear end that makes him want to stop.I have done a lot of work on open /silent with hogs that are turned out and I can watch them run for a few miles.Every hog that has been run before will put it in high gear when he can hear the dogs opening back there.When I only put silent dogs in the race the hogs reactions are a lot slower and races shorther.Now when I put bay dogs in the race it will be longer on a rough hog,I have seen the hog just keep running.When I put in land sharks in the race it is short and fast,when he is getting bit thru and thru it makes him stop.I have run hogs that are very dog wise and it takes a fast ,rough one to stop one and makes the race short.When I hunt hogs,lions,bears,bobcats or yotes ,I don't cars about hearing the race. Its about the end game and the faster that happens the better.On all the bears we caught this year so far,we have had some fast rough dogs and we have had short races.

[dan kluthe]

[MULE SKINNER]

This is my first post but I really wanted to reply on this one.

I run Plotts and Catahoulas both. BOTH flavors get put in the box every time I go. They BOTH have there advantages and disadvantages. I do think the hogs run further with an open mouth dog(hound), IF the hogs have been run before with dogs. BUT, the flip side of that is that I do think that you will get on more hogs with an open mouth dog(hound).

I will say its VERY nice to be able to pull out of the box whichever dog I need at the time and use.

[hog catcher28]

Well you say you know alot of guys in fl and they don't run hogs with blue ticks? well you don't know alot of us fl hog hunters then cuz i know alot guys that run nothing but blue ticks and myself run blue ticks and catahoulas! and for the one that said blue ticks don't came silent that's a line of crap! i own 6 and hunt with guys have them too. if you can train your dogs it can be done! i don't buy trained hogdogs i train my own. and someone said about Ca? well you say its rougher terrain then fl and GA well you wasn't in the right place bubba. so you ever want to hog hunt in hell then come on down we will show you what its like! ooh we catch them alive!! no guns no knives or spears. just you and the dogs so bring lots of rope your going to need it!