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Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby JasonBB » Tue Apr 27, 2010 3:37 pm

Was just curous if anyone ever used a Rottweiler on hogs!!
You would think they have the strenght and power too do it but maybe endurance would be the issue,what do you guys think?
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby Pops » Tue Apr 27, 2010 9:45 pm

most are way too big, too slow and no endurance & nowaday many don't have the guts to catch, that said there used to be a fella on baydog online that had some he used for catch dogs. also EVERY labXrott i have seen put on ahog caught like a champ. i know a few ozzies have used them in crosses and been satisfied. i think if you were going to do it on purpose i'd look for the smaller "correct" sized ones in 80-100# range and stay away from the huge 4 legged sausages. theoretically they should be interchangeable w/ a standard/scott type AB.
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Postby jkcasey » Wed Apr 28, 2010 1:42 am

A guy that ran hogs back home had one that was a hog catching machine, then after about 40-50 hogs later he got whooped pretty good by a big boar. After that he wouldn't even catch a shoat that he out weighted by 70 pounds. Not tring to judge the breed on one dog, but with him, he was one bad dude until he got his tail handed to him and that was it for his catchdog career. Later Kiel
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby bigboarstopper » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:32 am

I had a friend who used one as an off the leash catch dog. The dog worked great. Was the only one ive ever seen on hogs. He went with a pitt later on so I dont know if he just used the dog because it worked for him at the time but he didnt get another after that dog retired.
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby coadycurbow » Wed Apr 28, 2010 11:46 am

I tried a Rott x Pitt, turned him to a bay and he caught a bay dog. I thought well, maybe he was just excited since he had never been to a bay. Second bay, caught another bay dog. He didn't make it after that.
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby JasonBB » Wed Apr 28, 2010 3:22 pm

Ya i thought their size and endurance would be an issue,but like bigboarstopper said as a leash catch dog but who wants to run the leash all the time,I was just wondering because of the videos i have seen and different dogs were used and i never seen a rotti,
I have an American Rotti that is 4 and he weighs in at 155#
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby Pops » Thu Apr 29, 2010 12:46 am

the first thing you need to do is run him down to a healthy weight. most people (even hogdoggers) let their bulldogs carry too much weight and most pet dogs are in even worse shape than a good catching bulldog. to be in proper shape you need to be able to see all the ribs and the > shaped band of muscle that runs down the rib cage. i've seen plenty of good bulldogs turned into baydogs by an extra bad hog. it happens.
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby coadycurbow » Thu Apr 29, 2010 11:17 am

I like bulldogs that weigh about 40 to 50 lbs. We bay most of our hogs in bad briar thickets. If the catch dog is much bigger than that, he can't move around good enough to catch the hog. I like to have two cds just in case a situation like Pops mentioned. Feed a bad hog two bulldogs at the same time, then if one of your bay dogs will help a little, you can usually get em fouled enough to get em caught.

I have went back to the truck a time or two for a 30-30. :mrgreen:
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby boardog » Tue May 11, 2010 2:43 pm

I have only run game dead pitbulls from seriously game lines. Problem is they have to die to prove their gameness. Hearts like lions and not one ounce of quit in em. My last one got his from one rank boar. And no "good" bulldog will turn into a bay dog unless it was worthless to begin with. That's why o use game dogs.
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby Pops » Thu May 20, 2010 4:19 am

if your bulldogs were truly from GAME lines they'd be worthless for hogdogging since they would only want to catch the other dogs.
lost of reasons a dog bays instead of catching might just be wore out, could be sick could be injured & you just don't notice. most every dog has a breaking point. if you haven't seen it in your dogs, you haven't pushed them hard enough. the right hog & circumstance will break most dogs.
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby pigstickndude » Thu May 20, 2010 10:36 am

I agree with pops, if true game bred they will catch other dogs from what I have seen and tried. Tried one once, and was a hog catching machine in a pen, turn loose to a bay & caught a dog. Last hunt for her. As far as, a cd baying, I haven't had it happen yet, and I have pushed mine very hard and they have been on some very rank hogs in some very thick brush, & have only had one bark if he got cut down and could no longer get to the hog, bit even then was still crawling and trying to get back to the hog. As far as using a rotti, I personally wouldn't, the one I owned and the ones I have seen have had serious dominance issues. I just wouldn't trust them to be run with a pack of hunting dogs, or turned loose to a bay. I feel that if they felt challenged I'm any way that they would start a fight. But that's just my opinion, I've never seen one hunted and don't plan on trying it.
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Postby lifreediver » Wed Jun 16, 2010 10:25 am

i would love the see a workin line of rotti used on hogs sure would be tough the breed was never developed to take pain the breed was raised to bite people for so long padded sleeves and never required to receive a all out beatin and still do its job i read story printed in the book world of fightin dogs about a guard dog rotti killed a few dogs this was in the 60s in puerto rico the rotti was shipped to match a pitbull in a few minutes the rottis life was spared and he would no even look at the pitbull i think a 250 pound hog would do the same carl semmenic wrote the story dont know if is true but comin sense would say for a few hundred years they bit things that dont fight back please dont attack me for this just facts
also i have seen pitbulls from dead game lines 13 times inbreed off fastlane dogs yes be trained to only hunt hog the trick comin sense again the pup cant read he dont know what he is dont ever let him fight dogs only bring him hog huntin guess what that is all he knows keep him on short leash walkin threw woods relase at sound of bay bingo and most men dont train dogs they put them on a chain and when they mess up cullem great idea brag about cullen and not about trainin i would be glad to show the ruffest bulldogs gamest hardest biten dogs off any time invite me huntin a boxer dont walk into the gym a world champion a few years after trainin he does train them bulldogs they might supprise you or lettem rot on chains shootem when they are untrained and grab a dog warriors are smart how long would a dumb warrior live alsopitbulls have hog sense they grab the ear why not the tail or back leg there guts would be ripped out quick they grab the hog close to his weopon if a man was attackin u with a knife would u grab his ankles if u look on the web pitbulls hold more titles in obeidence search rescue schzund herdin etc then all the huntin dogs combined a woman has tons of titles all from game lines :beer i can give a pup to a hunter and guess what he was culled at a year give one to a trainer guess what workin title after title oh well if you want workin titles from game lines i will postem for ya and in the right hands they should be able to figure out what they are allowed to bite and not bite game dogs are smart trainable and that is a fact most people dontknow how to train a dog period ask your neibors freind etc every one knows how to train a dog but few could even teach a dog a few basic commands with out a boot and a whip but them boys can cull no harm intended but most people cant train a pitbull play nice now fellas and invite me huntin :beer
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby jkcasey » Thu Jun 17, 2010 2:50 am

I don't have too many hard and fast rules but one I do have is dogs don't bite or fight other dogs. Not only is unproductive, but it's also expensive. If one of my dogs doesn't get along with the others it's not going to be mine very long.
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Re: Anyone ever use Rottweilers

Postby Pops » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:14 am

i worked a dogmans yard for a couple of years just as matching was beginning to be outlawed. i am well aware of the differences in both looks & personality between real bulldogs & the fat hippos being called pitt bulls. they were game dogs not modern "gamebred," not curs killed in a pit by being outmatched or any other modern nonsense. 95% of those dogs would have run past a dozen hogs to lay into another dog. the few you would have gotten to grab a hog would have done the job just fine except they were too small to stop a really big hog by themselves (on the ear anyway).
and the two small pits i pried dead off a hogs ears were NOT gamedogs, although by modern standards they would have been called gamebred.

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