Below is the result synopsis of the Clearwater flyover. This area had over 11,000 elk in the early 80s and now has been alowed to dwindle to levels that are likely unrecoverable.
This is the WORST case of Management I have ever seen. While wolves have increased in number by over 20% a year elk have dropped close to 60% since 2006 - this is CRIMINAL mismanagement and I want some answers. the Feds shoved this down our throats and then throttled us some more when we tried to deal with it. I have had enough of spineless ID F&G saying wait and see. If this irritates you too Please call Idaho fish and Game and ask "what the heck have you been doing to stop this since 2006!????? ANDwhat the heck are you planning to do now??"
Im so mad I can hardly think and sad too. The article and numbers are below.
Date: February 26, 2010
Contact: Ed Mitchell
(208) 334-3700
idaho fish and game completes lolo zone elk survey
Recently completed aerial surveys show a marked decline in elk numbers in game management units 10 and 12, which comprise the Lolo Elk Management Zone.
Survey results indicate the elk population in the Lolo Zone has declined from 5,110 to 2,178, a 57-percent reduction since 2006. The greatest declines were observed in numbers of elk cows, calves and spike bulls. Overall, bull numbers were down zone-wide, with a shift in bulls to older animals.
"This survey, combined with ongoing research showing wolves are the primary cause of elk mortality today, is further scientific evidence of the impact wolves are having," Fish and Game Director Cal Groen said. "The rate of this decline in just four short years should help people understand there is an urgency to manage for a balance in this area."
Appropriate management options in response to this latest survey data are being explored.
Wolf predation is the major source of mortality on this elk herd and is affecting population size because too few calves are surviving to replace the adults that die each year. Predation is preventing recovery from a decline that began in the late 1980s and a steep decline following the severe winter of 1996-97.
This survey information corroborates ongoing research being conducted in the Lolo Zone that shows survival of radio-collared adult elk and six-month-old calves has been poor. Modeling efforts based on research survival data estimate declines of 11 to 15 percent annually.
Idaho Fish and Game's aerial surveys of most elk zones are conducted on a three- to five-year rotation. Surveys provide estimates of the size of the population as well as demographic data, such as numbers of elk cows, calves and bulls."
when is it going to be enough? the decimation Idaho Elk Herd
Re: when is it going to be enough? the decimation Idaho Elk Herd
IT WONT BE ENOUGH UNTIL PEOPLE STAND UP FOR THEMSELVES AND STOP GETTING RAN OVER BY THE FEDS AND THE STATE WILDLIFE DEPTS. IF YOU DECIDED TO RELEASE A FEW HUNDRED WILD HOGS UP THERE THEY WOULD FINE YOU AND PROBABLY GIVE YOU SOME JAIL TIME. BUT BECAUSE SOMEBODY WITH A TITLE AND WILDLIFE DEGREE DOES THE SAME THING [NON-NATIVE SPECIES}ITS SUPPOSED TO BE OK.I WORKED FOR WILDLIFE DEPTS. AND I PROMISE YOU THEY ARE NOT AS SMART AS THE AVERAGE HUNTER ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT OF GAME/FISH/NATURE ETC. THEY PISS MONEY AWAY ON STUPID STUDIES AND NICE 4 WHEEL DRIVE TRUCKS AND DO NOT JUSTIFY THERE JOBS WHATSOEVER. I KNOW I HAVE DONE IT. IF THE YELLOWSTONE HERD HAS BEEN KILLED FROM 20000 DOWN TO LESS THAN 5000 LIKE I READ, PEOPLE BETTER BEGIN TO ERADICATE THEM LIKE THEY SHOULD OR ITS IS DOOMSDAY FOR THE ELK.I READ THE SPINELESS COMMENTS ON HERE WITH HUNTERS TELLING OTHER HUNTERS TO BEHAVE,PLAY NICE,GO BY THE RULES AND MAYBE THEY WANT TAKE MORE PRIVLEDGES AWAY FROM US.WELL FU** THAT! I DONT CONSIDER HUNTING A PRIVLEDGE.ITS MY DAMN RIGHT AS AN AMERICAN CITIZEN TO LIVE MY LIFE THE WAY I SEE FIT IF IM NOT HARMING SOMEONE ELSE IN THE PROCESS.EVERYONE IS AFRAID TO REALLY FIGHT FOR WHAT THEY BELEIVE,BUT THATS IS THE ONLY WAY THINGS CHANGE.DUMP 500 CANADIAN GRAYS OUT IN PRIME WHITETAIL DEER COUNTRY IN ALABAMA,AND SEE HOW LONG THE REDNECKS AND WHITETRASH LET THEM LIVE.WAKE UP AMERICA AND STOP CRAWLING IN A HOLE WHILE THE DUMBA**HOLES THAT RUN THIS COUNTRY KEEP SCREWING YOU OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!SO LETS HEAR ALL YOU HALF HIPPIES AND LEFTIES BASH ME CAUSE I AINT SKEERD TO FIGHT.
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Re: when is it going to be enough? the decimation Idaho Elk Herd
Idaho Fish & Game will want to study them a few more years before they decide what to do. Conley brought the study it to death mentality to the state.
Hunting in Idaho will never be the same in our lifetime.
Hunting in Idaho will never be the same in our lifetime.
Re: when is it going to be enough? the decimation Idaho Elk Herd
Oswald,
x100000000000000000000000000 and you get a ATTA BOY for that statement!
x100000000000000000000000000 and you get a ATTA BOY for that statement!
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Re: when is it going to be enough? the decimation Idaho Elk Herd
AMEN BROTHER COULD NOT HAVE SAID IT BETTER. HOPE SOME OF THE F&G DEPTS TAKE HEED OF WHAT IS GOING ON.
Re: when is it going to be enough? the decimation Idaho Elk Herd
The antis don't care one bit about wolves or elk or anything other than their quest to stop hunting of any and every kind. PERIOD. You can't shoot elk if there isn't any and you don't need to shoot the wolves because after they eat everything else they will eat one another. What they always seem to leave out of the equation is that we as humans are just as much a part of nature as anything else that takes a breath. It's that plain and simple. And just like the previous post, until we as OUTDOORSMAN not houndsman or deer hunters or elk hunters or trappers band together and tell the state and goverment agencies to go kick rocks we can keep looking forward to the same lobbyist driven management agendas. Just my two cents. And hey easy on the white trash remarks I have feelings too you know. Later Kiel
Catch you later, Kiel “If what you did yesterday seems big, you haven't done anything today.” --Lou Haltz
Re: when is it going to be enough? the decimation Idaho Elk Herd
it is like the N word! I CAN SAY IT BECAUSE THATS WHAT I AM TOO 

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