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how does a guy pack out a bob on saddle horse

Postby sdred » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:00 am

I'm new to hound hunting starting to understand it from footback but was thinking about going horseback. My question is without taking a pack horse along what is a good way to pack out a bobcat on a saddle horse? Or should a guy try ? It would just be handy to only have to ride one horse. And question number 2 how would I train my hounds to leave me well enough alone after a kill. Might be a fun way to put miles on a younger horse but the whole scene in my mind seems like it might be more fun than my out of shape body could enduer. Just taking in account that i would be succesfull hunting. Season is in Winter here ground very hard!!!
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Postby Shorty » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:46 am

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Postby R Severe » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:19 pm

Just peel the hide right there after taking the cat, fits in a saddlebag real well. I carry a 18" bungy to wrap around a limb for peeling them.
I'd get that pony used to the smell of blood and cat at home before trying the pack out in the pucker brush.
Wipe a little at blood on his nose the first time you try it, while staying outta the way of those front feet. He may try to strike if he's really booger'd.
If you've not done much in the way of working with horses, find a good packer to help you introduce that horse the right way, and give you some tips to keep you safe.
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Postby Mt Goat » Wed Jul 23, 2008 1:15 pm

If your afraid the horse will spook then throw a towel around it and tie it on the back end of the saddle on top of your saddle bags. Or like alread said skin it and put it in the saddle bag. OR ride with a back pack on and stuff it in the back pack.
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Postby liontracker » Wed Jul 23, 2008 2:54 pm

I mostly just skin it right there, but if it is getting late or I am in a hurry, I tie it on behind the saddle whole. If you tie it on behind the saddle, blood willl get on everything. Be prepared to clean the leather especially the next day. Blood will ruin leather. Once it is dead and tied behind the saddle, my hounds could care a less about it, they immediately go to hunting up another. Don't worry it will work itself out. Just ride a gentle horse.
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Postby Mike Leonard » Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:07 pm

If you want to send me a private e-mail I will show you several bobs being packed out on old Gus and Shadow. No big deal skinned or whole a cat is just a cat, and horses will get use to it. I can also show you what a horse with a 200 pound plus lion looks like. LOL! My oldest son long trotted back to fetch the truck and trailer one day. We had caught this big old stinky tom, and finally with the help of some ropes got him up on Nicky the Wonderhorse. Well it was hot and lucky for me I had packed my Rocky hunting shoes so I took off my high top boots tied them on and stripped down to my T-shirt and pants and went to leadfng her out of the canyons. Well I got tired about 4 miles into this and we stopped to rest and I decided I would just jump up in back of the saddle and head on down the trail. Well she just walks out big old tom across the saddle and me perched back there behind . Scott come around the bend and stopped the truck and just got out laughing his head off. I said what's so dog gone funny? He said, Dad I come around that bend and here's this sorrel horse a coming down the road just a single footing along, and a big old lion across the saddle, and the pea picker back there behind with his green wool pants bloody t-shirt and that beat up 20 X hat and those goofy walking shoes. I just wondered, what in the hell would Ben Lilly thought if he met that. LOL!
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Postby kk » Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:56 am

When we loaded my lion onto a horse we rubbed the blood on the horses nose. And then blindfolded the horse while we loaded it. Always be careful when packing horses or mules I know a lot of people that have been kicked or hurt while loading them.
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Postby montananative » Sat Oct 11, 2008 1:39 pm

would it ruin the hide to drag it if you had snow? ive drug out yotes before on dry ground and their hide wasnt hurt bad at all...
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Re: how does a guy pack out a bob on saddle horse

Postby Mike Leonard » Wed Jul 08, 2009 2:51 pm

Don't drag a lion unless you don't plan to mount it. Even on snow you can mess them up with their heads banging into rock and bouldr breaking their whiskers off . A big lion is about as awkward a critter to drag as you can imagine. Nothing to get ahold of they are slippery and if you put a leash around their necks their big old neck is almost as big as the head and it slips off easy.

On dirt don't even think of it they will ruin and slide slick spotsin no time. I have one really big lion that I had to kill down in a bad boulder pile under a rim where you couldn't get a horse or mule down to him. I really wanted to take this lion out whole which i try to do with all the bigger ones to get accurate weights and measurments. Well two of us sweated and strained and worked him up the hill far enough to stretch two long lariat saddle ropes out and get a loop on him. then I got in the saddle of one horse and dallied the rop and the other person picked up on the head as best he could and we pulled him up the face a little at a time. Even though we really tried to be careful and even wrapped a yellow rubberized slicker around his head we still broke of a lot of his whiskers on one side. Once we got him to the top it was a simple matter to pull him up in a tree with one horse and then walk another horse under him and let him down on the saddle and tie him off for the trip out.

skinning them right there is much easier if you have good sharp knives and a little belt saw. But then you have to try to take the edible portions of meat off and take them out in most states to be legal.Some guys try to throw a small lion up on their shoulders and carry them out. Well you should leave those little ones for seed anyway but it is not an easy chore. I saw one guy who was a big stout lad of about 6ft. 4 inches and 220 pound trying to carry a 90 pound female out of a canyon. He slipped and fell offinto a crack in the rocks and so severyly tore his hamstrings and ligemants in his leg that he was on crutches and in therapy for nearly a year.

A 200 pound buck deer with antlers is a piece of cake compared to a slick slimey dead weight 140 pd. cougar. That is about as big a job to drag as herding a whole litter of housecats.
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Re: how does a guy pack out a bob on saddle horse

Postby pegleg » Wed Jul 08, 2009 4:52 pm

i knew i was doin it wrong! by the time i catch one my horse don't care WHATS on their back they're just happy to go home :oops:
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Re: how does a guy pack out a bob on saddle horse

Postby Clarka57 » Thu Sep 17, 2009 3:53 am

To me it seems all horses have their dumb moments, it seems like sometimes they would rather kill themselves than trust you. Natural instinct I guess to run, pull away, or strike. Blind fold and blood on the nose are great advise. Like most animals food, water, and safety are what horses think about most of the time. I don't typically feed grain so I use it as a tool. I found that taking some burger or raw meat and squeezing some blood into your hand and then grabbing some grain with that hand and letting your horse eat from your hand before you ever try to pack out meat or an animal will help. Also nailing hides to a post you are feeding hay next to will help. I also have taken a fresh bear hide and laid some grain on the flesh side in a corral, the drive to eat seems to finally take over and they get used to it. With most broke horses this kind of stuff may not be necessary but its easy to do and can't hurt. Packing a little grain with you the first time you load an animal may help, a blind fold can also save a horse chase, an injury, or a pack out on your back. my 2 cents anyways.

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