Slick Treeing

[1280]

I have a 2 year old treeing walker female who does a really good job of treeing coons. But once in a while she gets a little too excited I think and she slick trees. Would it be a good idea to put the shock collar on her and shock her when she does it? Or is there any other and better options to try?

[radar]

If she starts to get consistent with it than yes.shes still a little yung and you want them tobe tree minded.Theres lots of senerio's for slick trees the time of year being one of them.But if she makes a habit out of it or suckers other dogs off tracks that your pretty sure there the correct way on then its time for some correcting.JMO

[1280]

Thank you for the reply.

[BlacktailStalker]

Be damn sure there is nothing in that tree.

[1280]

She hasn't done it very often, but when she does you can clearly see there is nothing in the tree. I was reading Walk With Wick Volume 2 and he said some dogs get tree happy and will slick tree like she is doing. In the book he said to shock them. He said in the book that dogs with alot of tree power don't need much encouragement at the tree if any at all because they then tend to slick tree.

[twist]

If a dog has that much tree in them that they are false treeing they need need to be corrected or they are worthless nothing ticks me off more than walkin to a tree with nothing in it. This is also a good way to get all the dogs false treeing. An e collar usaully will correct the problem but some times it takes some harsh treatment and if then it still goes on there is no cure. Stop it in the early stages before it gets out of hand.

[George Streepy]

Don't be afraid to use the shock collar. It will help. I have shocked dogs off what I thought was an empty tree, only to see the critter up in the tree on my way back to the truck. Dogs that are false treeing are usually hard to break from treeing all together. Good luck.

[cjohnson1178]

I wouldn't shock a young dog on a tree. In my experience most slick trees come from a tree that has been bumped or treed and jumped. Either way the dog just needs to be taught how to check the tree and figure it out before comitting to it. If I dont see anything I just leash them up and pull them off. Never pet them up, tell them how you feel without being to harsh. Get them away from the tree aways and a lot of the time you can get the track going again and finish the race. If you shock them to hard good luck getting them lined out and finishing the race. The only thing I shock a dog for is trash running or being a babble mouth.

[ferjr]

+1

[twist]

this is still just my opinion but if a (young) 2 yr old dog is starting to slick tree it needs to be corrected it is just like that same dog running trash are you saying it shouldnt be corrected for that because of its age. This is the stage of thier life that they need to be tought what is right from wrong. If a hound has that much tree in them that they want to false tree it would take an aweful lot of HARSH TREATMENT TO EVER KEEP THEM FROM TREEING MORE TIMES THAN NOT THEY CANT BE BROKE FROM IT. The sad thing is some dogs never do learn but with out being corrected at an early age we will never know if they can learn right from wrong!

[George Streepy]

You won't hurt a 2 year old dog by shocking it. I wouldn't shock it on level 6 for 20 minutes but go ahead and get after it. You would need to take the dogs temperment into consideration also. Some would need level 6, some would just need a tap on level 1. But that is a whole other topic. Get it straightened out before it becomes a life long problem. Even if the false tree is because of a bump or a treed and jumped, the dogs shouldn't lock down on an empty tree.

[kordog]

i agree with george and twist good dogs know the difference.make sure its an obvious slick tree though.

[radar]

It deppends on alot of things game,terrain,dog temperment,hunter temperment......
F what I said then bro shock her tell she's perfect

[cjohnson1178]

I agree, shocking the dog won't hurt it any. Like Blacktail said be sure there is nothing in the tree before you shock the dog. But you can't stop there, just shocking it a going back to the truck isn't teaching the dog anything. I agree It has to be corrected imediatly. Trying to restart and finish the race "I think" is the important thing. Try and turn a bad thing into a positive thing if you can. If you can teach a dog to check down and learn to deal with the bumpers and jumpers you will have a nice dog to hunt with. If the dog makes a habbit of slick treeing I wouldn't even waste my time with it.