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BigGameHoundsmen.com • accidental mutt lietter?
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accidental mutt lietter?

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:24 pm
by Josh Kunde
Well my buddy just had a litter out of his plott female, looks to be like lab border collie hound mix, I was just wondering how many of you have kept any dogs out of an accidental litter like this. I told him to cull all of them, but he got real atached to this little male and I was just wondering how many have actually worked in the past. any reply would help I just wanna show him what other people think and what they have done in the past. thanks
Josh

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:48 pm
by TomJr
My old dogs don't have any hound in them and tree lots of bear every year plus a few cats both mtn lion and bobcats. Currently my best two are a lab/bordercollie and a lab/? we think rotty. My dogs do not have cold noses. 90% of the bears they tree are body scent when they come near our orchard(up to 1/2 mile away). They can follow a 3 hour old trail, tested them on a bear last year that was just outside the fence at 2am and I took the dogs out at 5am.

The three dogs I had before these was labmixes and those three treed lots of foxes and bobcats and bear (never lions tho).

I would say get them all nutered and don't expect much... but you might be surprised by how well they acualy do. If nothing else they should make good pets.

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 7:43 am
by BMC97756
I herd of a guy using collie/plot crosses and he said he liked them a lot but definitely hot trailers. he also used them as stock dogs for cows

Posted: Sun Dec 16, 2007 3:40 pm
by Melanie Hampton
We had a full Border Collie that used to rig and tree bears with the rest of the hounds...

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 12:55 am
by RIFLEMAN
One of my best dogs I ever had wasn't even a hound. He was a black and grey dog, out of a yellow lab male and a yellow lab female, with the rest of his littermates being yellow labs.

Growing up as a young boy, I spent a lot of time hunting and making forts in the river bottoms close to my house. I would routinely catch coons, cat, possum and skunks with my three farm dogs.

My friends never believed me when I told them how many coons and cats Flash caught until they saw him tree a cat in the middle of a star thistle patch in the middle of a hot August day...after that, they wanted to breed their Walker females to him!

I guess the moral of the story is that you should not discount these pups just because they are not purebred hounds.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 1:50 am
by nmplott
I agree just hope for the best in this cross.... there have been plenty of pure hounds crossed that the wrong genes were expressed and had a litter of hounds that were not quite what the breeder wanted perhaps the litter will make great hounds that love water.

Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:37 am
by pete richardson
rifleman - my first thought is cull them-- but i can sure realte to what you said


had hounds for 30 years lol -- all time favorite dog was 1/2 mountain cur 1/2 walker- both parents were very close to worthless- he mite have been the homeliest ,least likely dog i ever owned --

buddy was going to cull him ,he was only pup that survived --

happend to be fooling with a coon the day he stopped by with him , he was just a natural --

he didnt just get the cows-he would single one out ,-he ran the barn--get them up . put them in stalls ,whatever needed to be done, he just did it ,

watch the kids, pull a sled , best watch dog ever ,run a rabbit ,tree coons or squirrel , kill rats and woodchucks -he would ride on motorcyles snowmobiles ,tractors whatver -- if phone rang in barn--- he would bark treed at it-- sometimes get too excited and knock it off the hook and bark in receiver
-- i always liked to say - that mutt answers the phone but doesnt speak english and doesnt take messages--and that was before caller id -- :)

--never taught him anything - he just did it - lassie had nothing on that mutt - i could go on all day but i doubt anybody would belive it -

he never was tied - came up missing --

talked my buddy into making same cross again-
my pup from next litter would tree coon - but nothing special -

have seen a few other good dogs from accidental matings-

better to be lucky than good - once in a great while a longshot pays off -but it will cost the same to raise and train the best you can find -

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:15 pm
by Josh Kunde
well the one male ended up going to a friend as a pet, but for some odd reason all the other pups were just plane mean. and I mean they weren't just biteing like a pup does but the hair would stand up on their back and growly, so they were all culled, at least the one we wanted actually went to a good home. thanks for the advice, I wont be so fast to cull next time. I will at least give em a chance.
Josh

Posted: Thu Dec 20, 2007 11:09 pm
by chris
walker/collie best dang dog we ever walked behind guy up the road shot him :cry: