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COLD NOSE???

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 2:28 am
by levicooper
So I have seen both good and bad. Is a super cold nose a blessing or a curse????



levi

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 9:52 am
by Budd Denny
Depends on how fast he can use that super cold nose.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 10:14 am
by Spanky
depends on when you use it :roll: . For us its about territory and aging the track and where it leads will depend which hound will be the start hound. We have several areas that lead straight back to wilderness and using the coldest hound is not always the wisest of choices.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 3:05 pm
by beardogger4life
i have to agree with spanky on location and situation. i have also seen a cold nose dog hit a hot coon track and end up taking it backwards and you end trailing back so far it turns into a big mess.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 4:50 pm
by Nolte
I want them as cold as I can get, as long as they can finish the track.

Around here you NEVER hear guys wish their dogs had LESS nose. It's just the opposite in fact.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 6:37 pm
by DesertDweller
Takes brains along with nose to make a dog, a coldnosed dog that stands on his head that boo hoos around and can't push or drift the track at a pace good enough to jerk the slack out of it is worthless.

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 8:40 pm
by plottchaser
if a dog can pick up a cold track and heat it up fast its worth his in gold.JMO

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 1:55 am
by PIGLET
My first question is what do each person think a cold nose is... Is cold nose dog one that runs a bobcat track in snow 24hrs old hits 5 snags in the track and never catches up.. Or a 8 hr old bear track that when you turn loose only a couple dogs ever get to the bear and by that time they have pretty much played out when the bear is just getting on his nike's..Like spanky said conditions, terrain, species and how long u have to hunt decides. I hate a cold nose dog for bears there ususally easy enough where i hunt that u want the whole box to blow, and the bear less than an 1hr old... Cats I like a colder nosed dog but conditons play a large part if the track is 24hrs old at the oldest but snow conditions are good i will turn loose. But If the snow is slushy or crusty i won't turn loose unless i know the track is 6hrs or less. just my take

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:55 am
by TomJr
Sometimes I think it would be neat to have a cold nosed dog, but then I have never had one. If my dogs get on something they either get it up a tree within an hour at most and usualy 30 mins or less. Or they lose it and just give up and come back to me when I call (I guess I don't give them enough time to learn how to track colder stuff). On the other hand I normaly don't have the time it would take to follow a cold nosed dog... I take my dogs out to hunt every morning before work and some evenings if not too tired, but I only have an hour or two most days.

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:19 pm
by Cold Track
It's all in what you like. I desire all of my dogs to have cold noses. We don't have enough lions around here to get that ideal six hour or fresher track every time, if I relied on those perfect conditions I'd only catch a couple of lions a year. I also want enough nose that when they head from a north slope to a burnt off south slope they keep the track rollin, or where conditions turn bad with the temp. I've seen other dogs make a race ending lose. One other thing I like to hunt in the dirt freecast on horses and it takes more nose to hunt that way. Like Nolte said I would complain a lot more about not having enough nose than having a cold nose, and besides that why would you have a cold nosed dog that can't move a track. JM2 cents!

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:15 pm
by pete richardson
colder the better - :) teach them to handle- call them off those tracks that they arent moving fast enuff-

ive never had a dog i thought was too cold nosed but ive had some that were hard of hearing :)

Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 11:43 pm
by snowy river black and tan
I prefer a hot nose dog on bear and a cold nose dog on lions. The same dogs can be both with a little work. Im not afraid to turn out on a two day old track if the snow is good. I usualy have to get out and walk a bit but they usalay catch. The same dogs struck bear real good their second year hot tracks and fast races. But their third year found them striking colder tracks longer races and less catches. So I started discoraging them on the older tracks and now they do pretty good just striking the hot stuff.

cold nosed

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 1:27 am
by cecil j.
DesertDweller wrote:Takes brains along with nose to make a dog, a coldnosed dog that stands on his head that boo hoos around and can't push or drift the track at a pace good enough to jerk the slack out of it is worthless.



I`ve culled 2 cold cold nosed hounds & found 2 also over the yrs that I owned that put a tree-up or holed game at the end and it was same track they left out on by thunder/ like that man said (brains) it takes experience and even more (gray matter) that makea that extra cold cold nose usefull. Ya cant fault a great hound if when hes tail gated and he locates a scent and opens and starts moveing it and ya realize its a 2 day old or 36 hr old track, especially if ya have seen that dog on cruze controll and finish successfully too catch or tree up/ time after time !
The other dogs might be just cant figure out things weather they smell it or can much more easerly trail it backwards ! Fox hounds use too do that sometimes because they knew if they back tracked they would end up at his den!I got ridd of that old time meat dog type !

Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 2:18 am
by bearcat
I like them as cold nosed as I can get them, but they have to move a track and have brains. I like a cold nosed dog on bear to, we have lots of bear but early in the spring and late in the fall they aren't moving much so a cold nosed dog is worth their weight in gold. And if they have brains they'll take a hotter track if they come across it while they're trailing an old track. And in july when it starts out in the low 80's in the morning and is hitting close to 100 by9-10 o'clock it takes a little more nose to get a bear track going to.
Just what I like, a lot of the hunters around here won't turn the dogs on a bear unless it is almost red hot, and most of the year they do fine, but the first week or two and the last week or two and usually a couple weeks in july they have problems finding a bear to run.

Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 3:13 am
by roscosrokons
I like a cold nosed dog for hunting bobcats. It doesn't take long for a bobcat track to be considered a cold track. I've ran alot of tracks with a cold nosed hound that most guys around here wouldn't even think of turning out on. Many times these cold tracks will turn into a smoking hot track within just a mile or so. The only problem is that cold nosed dog better be able to pick up his head and start drifting when that track gets hot. Ross