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Marcial , did not upset me at all there are those that do but usually just want a be's or for those that are looking to make a buck ( some peoples living it can help that by entering ) I could care less and most people I hunt with could care less they/we make measurements ( have someone that has been trained to make measurements ) and even those that go all time I cannot think of one being entered that could have been.
I was under the impression that all telemetry makes entry illegal , but never read it myself.

I do not know seems to me that most people that enter are just looking to stroke themselves or get stroked. Have something to prove maybe compensating for something I am messing around here with a tiny bit of truth to my understanding.

smiley If you can't think of any animals being entered into the books how do you know people only enter animals into the books to get stroked? And it appears you're interested in knowing which animals your hunting party harvests qualifies for the books - sounds like a tight nit stroke party.

I think any kind of tracking equipment is a great tool when it comes to finding dogs. But I also think that knowlege of a persons dogs and the game that they are after is becoming a lost art due to tracking equipment. When my dogs get out of hearing I pull out my tracking box to speed up the process of finding out where they are, often times before I sit and look the terrain over and try to figure out where they will most likely be. And in my opinion that is a downfall of mine. When I hunt with the old timers they can a lot of times tell you, drive down to the end of this road, hike out and listen in this bowl, you will hear the dogs in there. They know the dogs, and know where that animal is going to go when the dogs get after it.

Ross

I was asking how often during a race that people used their telemetry tracking equipment, Not who was stroking what. How did we get so far off course?

Scott

My apologizes Scott, I couldn't help myself when I read the last couple of posts. But I always thought and said that the telemetry systems were a waste of my time and money (or I wasn't very good at working them). It'd seem like in the canyons you'd get the same strength signal pointing straight at the dogs or 180 degrees away from the dogs and if there were dog tracks every where kind of tough to know which way to hike in to get a lost dog, I'd only rarely take it out and try to get a beep on dogs. The garmin is a permanent fixture in my pocket now.

jason wrote: But I always thought and said that the telemetry systems were a waste of my time and money (or I wasn't very good at working them).

I dunno about that Jason, have you ever spent much time hunting without any type of tracking collar??

Back when I started into hounds tracking collars were just being introduced and I ran dogs for several years without them. You'd dump on a track and then tried to stay within hearing distance of the dogs whatever it took. Lions weren't so bad because the races generally progressed a little bit slower and I could keep up on foot if I had to even if it went for miles. Running bear, on the other hand, was always more of a challenge because the dogs often blew out of the country and you were left all alone in silence. A few buddies and myself used to head up to the Idaho panhandle every year where we dumped out on the first day then spent the rest of the week gathering up dogs. But that was just how you had to do it back then.

Tracking collars really revolutionized the sport of hound dogging and even with my beep beep box I rarely have to leave a dog out overnite. Just getting a signal from a lost dog is reassuring, at least you know you're looking in the right area. Even the poorest telemetry system is a vast improvement over nothing at all and payed for themselves in the money you saved in gas looking for lost dogs.

So a waste of your time and money?? That's gotta be an exageration.

Sorry Scott - I guess I was the one that got this one going off track.

Anywho - hope your Christmas went well.

Marcial

Kevin D : +1

Back to the original question, I've been running both on my dogs for about 2 years, and I can only recall twice that I had to use telemetry to find a dog, and that is because his GPS comm was lost. Since the update to 3.6 I haven't lost a comm.

I'll still use the telemetry backup just in case they get out over night and the GPS battery life becomes an issue. But so far, I've got to my dogs or got my dogs back the same day since using GPS.

Yeah the first few years of cat hunting I hunted without any type of tracking collars, just name tags with my phone number on the collars, and then when I was rich enough to buy a few collars that a friend could track I used them. 90% of the time the mutts would be making their way back to the spot we turned out before night came. When I could afford the actually telemetry tracking boxes I bought one of those blue boxes (brand ?) and like I said before I seriously can not think of the old beep beep ever help me bring dogs out any faster since about 45 degrees you get a signal and then the opposite 180 degrees you get a signal and I had to rig the box to run straight out of the cigarette lighter so i could not pack it with me. So with these new Garmins I'm in hog heaven being able to know exactly which direction and distance the dogs are from me.

M Evertsen wrote:One other thing that popped to mind.

How does the use of the Garmin effect entry into B&C, P&Y, etc?

I believe there is a statement on there regarding the use of electronics, and whether or not electronics were used to harvest the animal.

Just a thought - could we be pushing the envelope if we are using the Garmin to get ahead of the dogs, and try to enter that animal in the record books?

Later,

Marcial

Not trying to take this off track just answering the question, doesnt matter what kind of telemetry you use if the receiver is used then the animal is not eligable for entry. In talks with B&C about this they seemed to have some concern about the number of possible entrys from users but since entry qualification questions are on the honour system there is not much they can do.
Personally not concerned about getting a name in the book but do want to find dogs, so will someday own a garmin or marshall gps when they are out.

Usually leave it in the truck as I hate packing more than my pack. So only if I lose a dog I will use it, depending on how far away I am from the truck. I only have one collar and I put it on Ozzy so Bella and Gus better stay with him or figure out how to back trail to the truck or me if they get lost. Seriously wanting to get a Garmin so bad!!