prices

[chilcotin hillbilly]

Houndem, you have got it about figured out, I charge a fair bit more but look after all accomodation and food, as well as airport pickup 2 1/2 hrs each way as well as looking after inspections and lining up the shipping.
You can go backward pretty quick if dogs get hurt or breakdowns happen. It always amazes me how cheap so called outfitters in the lower 49 are. As the last time I checked if you are a professional you need to make a profit, just not pay for your dogs.
Do the math, I guide about 40 days a year, run game personally, for training and fun 70 or more days ayear. and run my dogs another 100 evenings a year for exercise. All this adds up to big dollars.i
A thousand dollars for a hunt is pathetic and you can not be lumped into the professional guide classification. You will go backwards really quick if you kept that up for very long.

[Ker_man]

I guess that if I was insisting on people posting a price for a professional hunt I would not start picking it apart. If I was trying to get a free invite, sure would be careful of the tone of what I had to say! Terry

[bayhard1]

ker_man i dont see what ur saying i just wont to see what the prices i have had 3 free invites pm'ed to me so i just wont to under stand y its so much and i do now i had no understanding a cat dog was $5000 thats a great risk

[Patrick]

"$3000 for putting up with the bloomin hunter"
At least double that for having to put up with attitudes like bayhard1 presents, and I still don't think guiding would be worth it to me.
And that is the primary reason I do not guide.
Pat

[bayhard1]

i patrick any time u wont to come to texas look me up i will take u on a free texas hog hunt with my dogs like i said i understand the price now thanks for ur time

[foxcat]

An allstar fox or bobcat dog is priceless. You can not put a price on that kind of a dog. I think just about any decent bear dog can catch a lion.

[houndnem]

An allstar fox or bobcat dog is priceless. You can not put a price on that kind of a dog. I think just about any decent bear dog can catch a lion.

Oh ya and you'd know about a lion dog how? very few bear guys down her that do very good on lions, they will tree a few easy ones, but that's it. some guys have dogs that do both great, but that's with lots of hard work and training and a "priceless" dog. Bring some dogs out sometime and we'll chase some lions. I don't care if they're bobcat, fox, or bear dogs it aint as easy as it seems. you should actually have a clue about something before you open your mouth.

[Lil Joes BigGame hounds]

Foxcat, you may be right a good bear dog can catch a lion. But alot of these high priced lion hounds are high priced because they can do what your "good" bear dogs can not. It doesn't take a magnificent dog to catch an over night snow track. When your hunting in every condition imaginable and catchin you will put a higher value on those dogs. Just something to think about.

You cant make a livin on a thousand dollar hunt. Unless you have a ton of hunters and then its just not fair to your hunters cause you would have to stack them like cord wood. When you guide as a professional you must run your hunts so you will have the highest success for your hunters. If you dont you are no better than a crook. jmo

[RezDogRendezvous]

Weeellll... Hack, pathetic, unprofessional and crook; that's me! Lol. I figured the thousand was kinda more a courtesy deal since I was only set on helping the guy kill his first lion. I'm not trying to make a living or be a pro, or guide! I have a tough enough time satisfying myself on a week of hunting. I definately wouldn't want to try to keep a client happy day after day. I wasn't trying to question or put anybodies way of business on the spot. I guess I just had a question. After the lic., inc. etc. was mentioned I realized I was just too dumb to figure that out myself. My bad pahtna. Where I come from and where I hunt the only fee I have to spend is the gas and the feed to keep the pack. No tags, inc., etc. Nothing like that. So I had a question, it was answered and now I understand. Thanks houndnem. Bayhard I figured it out. Its gonna be around $3500 to have the job done right and legal.

[houndnem]

Hey rezdog, we have all sides of the spectrum now and I wasn't refering to you as a hack, just saying, thats what I would be if I tried to do a bunch of thousand dollar hunts. used to do it all the time back in the day till I realized how much trouble I could get in here. here in the great state of utah they frown on under the table guids pretty bad. I am a licenced contractor and when people with no lic or ins, workmans comp, etc steal my work It don't make me too happy so I guess I understand why. If I had the right circumstances like you have I would be all over it. I know the guy was just trying to hook up a hunt and If I was in a better financial situation I would have glady taken him for free. then it shifted to breakin down what and why we charge for a hunt. now I think everybody understands that and I hope this thread moves back to findin dudebro a place to go hunt a lion. it sounds like some good people might be able to accomadate him.

[Yard Dog]

Been getting a kick out of this one for a few days now. Heres my two cents, a guided hunt costs what it costs. No need to explain yourselves, either a guy is willing to pay it or not. As far as guys guiding for a living, don't know of any that make a living out of it. They all work a regular job of somekind and do it on the side when time allows or they are drawing unemployment. As far as costs, dont see any differance, all licensing fees should be absorbed in 1 hunt, everything else is a wash. The regualr "hack" pays the same to feed his dogs, buy his gas, maintain his truck, sleds and wheelers. Tracking equipment and such costs the same. Almost every company around keeps their employees current on first aid and CPR training. I don't know of any guides around that have been to any "Profesional" guide schools or training. They are just guys with a good dog or two and can make some side money doing what they enjoy. I know this post is going to piss some guys off, all I am saying is tell the man what it costs and leave it at that.
And foxcat, I am with you, I'll take that bobcat dog....

[houndnem]

my butt lickin mutt lion dogs smoke a few bobbers every year, it don't make em bobcat dogs. that was my point. just cuz a beardog will tree a smokin hot lion track every now and then don't mean it's a bad a$$ lion dog.

[kwalker]

houndenem your price and the way you break it down price wise is the same thing i do. People expect a lion for free and dont realize the time and money you have in the dogs and equipment and when you throw the price out they start bad mouthin YOUR PRICE.

[bayhard1]

i started this post to check prices to c how much i had to save up now some of u have made my post a war zone let it be sorry i ask this shit went to bad let it go hunting is fun not a fight
thanks
harry white

[DC DOGGIN]

Im no guide nor do I know any i have seen some adverisements and such and i have seen a fair amount of reasonable ones and some i thought to be priced high. But I dont know maybe the ones that always seemed really high to me maybe they have a bunch of private land that allows there client to harvest monster lions and that may make a big difference i would imagine. But i think houndnem has a pretty good gig going and havent heard anything bad about him as far as his reputation as a guide. I wouldnt mind paying what hes asking if thats what i wanted to do. I agree anybody that runs hounds share alot of the same expenses as far as tracking equipment dogs feed vet bills tri tronics sleds 4 wheelers and such. The difference is like mentioned before the licenses and isurance bonds and maybe even leases for ranches, prob going to have top of the line equipment i would think. They may make a differnce also, a guy can go get the job with average things but its alot nicer and easier and less stress when you know you have equipment that is trustworthy ((like a good hound gotta be able to get the job done consistantly)) and not gonna fail you as often as cheap s**t jsut my two cents.