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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:08 am
by larry
Montana_Red_Neck Wrote:
"But a dog that shows aggression at feeding is not uncommon. And if it does it towards other dogs, it will usually let even the most dominant member of the pack know how it feels about being messed with at feeding time"
It is extremely uncommon if from the very beginning of being weaned or whenever introduced to other dogs as a puppy, it is taught(properly) that behavior and manners like that will not be tolerated, even when extremely hungry. Don't make excuses for your dogs, don't make training easy for your dogs, and you will have good dogs.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 11:33 am
by TomJr
You can turn things around with dogs being aggresive on feeding time. It will take abit of work and at first you will have to stand next to them until they are done eating. I don't own shock collors not because I don't believe in them but because I never needed them yet.
I took in my brothers two dogs 2 years ago and they were very aggresive on feeding time and also would bark at each other sometimes if one layed too close to another. I think they got this way because my brother was not walking them everyday and also they was confined to a small yard over several years. Anyhow two years later they can eat right next to eachother (still eat like pigs tho but will not bother my other dogs dishes even if there is food left over in them.
Took me several months to get them to this point tho. And they was real bad, blood drawn on each other and one even bit me early on (never back off if a dog bites you by the way, come down harder on them or you will just make them worse.) Point I am trying to make is if you have the time and patience you can take even the most aggresive casses and turn them around.
Here is basicly what I did for the food issues (this solved the growling while laying too close as well). Stand over the dogs while they eat and if they so much as glace at the other tap them on the side and say NO! (or Hey! or anything thats loud just has to be in a convencing tone). The force of the tap depends on the dog tho. One of my brothers dogs is more sensitive than the other (funny thing is he was the more aggresive of the two). On the more sensitive one I just had to say NO! and thats enough the other one I had to tap predy hard to get his attension. Tap can be with you foot if yer scared he is going to bite you, I don't mean kick just enough to let them know.. or can use a stick if you have to again its not a beating its a tap. Its important that you not show any hesitation if they try to bite or snap in your direction, just come down harder if that happens.
I see some saying get rid of the dog ect but if you work with the dogs it should not have to come to that point... for most dogs. Guess there might be a few that realy do have a screw loose upstairs but I have never run into one yet.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 2:31 pm
by Montana_Red_Neck
larry, go back and read my first post. You'll see that in the case of the one dog of mine that had this issue learned the behavior. And quit saying I'm making excuses for my dogs. I'm explaining the reasons WHY dogs act this way during feeding. I've made an effort to help someone experiencing a behavioral issue that is fairly common... and one that I have experienced with a dog. Telling him that it is uncommon is rediculous. My dog was 7 months before he picked up this trait from my brother's dog. It took 3 days to fix it.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 5:29 pm
by Buddyw
I try and get a fight started with my dogs any time I can... I'll move bowls together and try and gently push a dog into one that I think has some aggressive behavor while they are eating. Sometimes I'll make them eat out of a big huge bowl all together when were camping.
Another thing I'll do is I'll trow some good lefovers down right on the ground and see if any dog jumps on it.. every dog should know that it's mine until I tell them. Then One dog one at a time I'll call a dogs name and they'll be allowed to eat from it, then the next dog Gets a couple bites, and so on taking turns.. I try to follow the natural Dominance.. Me then my best dog that is the dominant one, and continue down the line..
But I don't allow any aggression.. I don't even like a cross look.. I'll run a dog off the food, if they get aggressive then they can watch the rest of the pack eat.. after a while they learn
If that can't fix it.. I don't want the dog.
Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2008 7:08 pm
by larry
Montana_Red_Neck wrote:larry, go back and read my first post. You'll see that in the case of the one dog of mine that had this issue learned the behavior. And quit saying I'm making excuses for my dogs. I'm explaining the reasons WHY dogs act this way during feeding. I've made an effort to help someone experiencing a behavioral issue that is fairly common... and one that I have experienced with a dog. Telling him that it is uncommon is rediculous. My dog was 7 months before he picked up this trait from my brother's dog. It took 3 days to fix it.
I'm gonna have to respectfully disagree with this. If trained properly, a dog would not pick up that trait, no matter what the older dog was doing, because he would know what the cosequences were if he did. Maybe the puppy didn't have exposure to feeding time with other dogs prior to picking this up, but he should have, so he could be taught about agrresive behavior towards other dogs, food, tree, whatever the circumstance, puppies need to learn this at a young age. You apparently got this handled with a still somewhat young dog, good for you. My point was that there is no excuse for a dog that is the age of the original dog in question to act this way. It should be dealt with right away in a puppies life.
Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2008 1:45 am
by Montana_Red_Neck
I agree- my dog was fed with other non-agressive dogs until he was exposed to my brother's bird dog... then this trait appeared directly after being bitten. No ill behavior at any time should be tolerated.
fight over food !?
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:52 pm
by cecil j.
ken wrote:Thanks to you as well MKT,
The two get along well as long as food isnt involved. I believe my blue was four months old when I received him.. he was the runt and I think to some degree thats why he is aggresive with food.. They feed side by side but when she gets near his bowl or bone he is very aggresive.. attacks her throat...etc. she will rarely do this but from time to time she does.
so does an a$$ kicking make him worse and more aggresive?
Well ya got lots of openions and you might just resolve it by hanging 2 short chain snapps out side the kennel wire run on either with leight of your pen and befor feeding em ya just go out and time each up too its 2 ft long chain snap which id snaped at the other end low on the ouitside side of the kennel fence. Let them each et snaped too the same chain set tie out @ time and set a bucket of fresh water next for each dog/ then come bring the two meals and set each down too each dog,so it allways has the same food pan.
Now then wasent that easer to do and lessen they want too fuss withtheir selves over it this way/ PROBLEM SOLVED!
Re: fight over food !?
Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 11:01 pm
by larry
cecil j. wrote:ken wrote:Thanks to you as well MKT,
The two get along well as long as food isnt involved. I believe my blue was four months old when I received him.. he was the runt and I think to some degree thats why he is aggresive with food.. They feed side by side but when she gets near his bowl or bone he is very aggresive.. attacks her throat...etc. she will rarely do this but from time to time she does.
so does an a$$ kicking make him worse and more aggresive?
Well ya got lots of openions and you might just resolve it by hanging 2 short chain snapps out side the kennel wire run on either with leight of your pen and befor feeding em ya just go out and time each up too its 2 ft long chain snap which id snaped at the other end low on the ouitside side of the kennel fence. Let them each et snaped too the same chain set tie out @ time and set a bucket of fresh water next for each dog/ then come bring the two meals and set each down too each dog,so it allways has the same food pan.
Now then wasent that easer to do and lessen they want too fuss withtheir selves over it this way/ PROBLEM SOLVED!
Don't think the problem would be solved, more like avoided til a later date, perhaps under a tree.
Re: fight over food !?
Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:39 pm
by cecil j.
larry wrote:cecil j. wrote:ken wrote:Thanks to you as well MKT,
The two get along well as long as food isnt involved. I believe my blue was four months old when I received him.. he was the runt and I think to some degree thats why he is aggresive with food.. They feed side by side but when she gets near his bowl or bone he is very aggresive.. attacks her throat...etc. she will rarely do this but from time to time she does.
so does an a$$ kicking make him worse and more aggresive?
Well ya got lots of openions and you might just resolve it by hanging 2 short chain snapps out side the kennel wire run on either with leight of your pen and befor feeding em ya just go out and time each up too its 2 ft long chain snap which id snaped at the other end low on the ouitside side of the kennel fence. Let them each et snaped too the same chain set tie out @ time and set a bucket of fresh water next for each dog/ then come bring the two meals and set each down too each dog,so it allways has the same food pan.
Now then wasent that easer to do and lessen they want too fuss withtheir selves over it this way/ PROBLEM SOLVED!
Don't think the problem would be solved, more like avoided til a later date, perhaps under a tree.
I believe the person said its the (only time) there is ny aggression !
Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:05 am
by coondawg1972
I'M NO EXPERT BY NO MEANS BUT MY HOUNDS ALL EAT OUT OF THE SAME BIG BOWL RIGHT NOW I HAVE 8. MALES AND FEMALES MIXED TOGETHIER. ONE GYP IS IN HEAT IN THE KENNEL IN THE SAME DOG LOT. THIS IS WHEN THE MALES ARE AT THERE WORST BUT I RAISED MY HOUNDS THIS WAY AND WHEN I INTRODUCE A NEW HOUND. I CARRY A OLD BROOM HANDLE I PUT THE FOOD OUT AND JUST STAND THERE AND WAIT IT NEVER FAILS THAT THE NEW HOUND WANTS TO BE THE BOSS I TAP HIM ONCE OR TWICE AND KEEP THIS UP FOR ABOUT A WEEK THEY MOST OF THE TIME COME AROUND. I AGREE WITH THE ONE REPLY ABOUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BEAT THE MESS OUT OF THEM JUST SHOW WHOS BOSS.