URGENT CHANGES TO UTAH LION PERMITS

[killroy]

Well good luck with that.

[timothy]

It should be no females.. but we will never get what it should be.

[TUCO]

I figger there startin out way high on the numbers so that when they cut the quota down some, don peay can say he got the numbers cut down because he just loves us hounddoggers an dont wanna see all our lions wiped out...just 99% of them.

[Neff]

Male + Female = Kittens

____+ Female = __________

Male + ______= __________

If one part of the equation is missing no Lions.

Seems to be pretty simple math even for Utah boys with hounds.

[Neff]

If anyone has put together a decent letter to the RAC members please PM it to me I would like to see it.

Thanks

[Redneck]

please dont take me wrong when i say this every one protest it and dont shoot the females take the toms and they just may get the idea that we dont want to shoot females and have a quota ,not cool in my mind
there just a thought here and my 2 cents worth there ive said my piece

[black eye]

Lots of good opinions, hope you all show up to the rac meetings!

[Bplott]

Rac meetings start tomorrow night everyone get there!!! We need to shut this one down this is crazy!!!

[Bplott]

HATE to be the one to always be droping bad news boys and girls this is looking worse and worse for lions here in utah .....get to all your rac meetings......female harvest numbers are rediculous!!!! Check this out in THE LAST 4 yrs WE HAVE KILLED 788 TOMS and 466 FEMALES!!!! Those numbers are straight from the DWR and now we wonder WHY we have no lions left!!!! WTF!!!!!!!

[black eye]

Numbers like that those sub-quotas will shut down.

Do you think houndsmen will learn?

We are our own enemy!

[houndnem]

the rac passed it in richfeild last night. all down hill from here boys and girls! I especially feel bad for you people up north, this will be the nail in the coffin up there.

[Cosmo]

Ok guys, the south passed this. We need to get to the rac's up north and make a impact on thier decission. Why aren't more houndsmen being vocal about this issue? Is it cause they are glad they get to shoot more lions (females). Are we (the ones who are against shooting lions) in the minority here in Utah? This will destroy lion hunting.

[Bplott]

Southeast was also a pit fall guys......this is not looking good!!

[BigGameHunter]

Well. We tried at the southeast rac to get it shut down to no avail. 8 guys got up to ask that it revert back to last years proclamation, 2 guys got up to voice their support of the changes and the RAC went with the change. What the hell??????? So much for the RAC board listening to the public.

It looks to me like the changes are going through so maybe rather than fighting the change we should fight the numbers! You guys up North need to ask if the division in the questions section if they want to keep the lion population stable at its low level, decrease it or trend it up. I think they will SAY (based on their presentation last night) that they want it stable at its low level. Then convince the idiots that this new plan will DECREASE the lion population in the state significantly. If they want to maintain the population, why wouldn't they set the quota's for the non-sheep management units equal to the average harvest over the last three years? That stratagy sucks but its better than what they have right now! They even said last night that they didn't expect the quota's to be met on most of the management units. WHY THE HELL ARE THEY SETTING THEM SO HIGH THEN?

[Bearkiller]

I'll be at Vernal's tonight.