Hey Dirt Hunters, a ?
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funstuff
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Re: Hey Dirt Hunters, a ?
newby, we are considered high desert plateau. it is extremely dry at this formation and elevation. even in the desert areas you still get more dew and frost from the temp changes. i haven't had frost in weeks. it just stays so dry. no moisture, no scent. the humidity stays low, and add a 5mph wind, bam, perfect for the cat to dissolve. doesn't mean i stay home, just means i get to take my dogs for more long walks.
Re: Hey Dirt Hunters, a ?
My thoughts are like you Andy everytime Ive ever caught a bob on dirt it's been by fluke chance or bounce one in front of the dogs and even then it was luck. I always grew up with the notion that some conditions were hard to catch lions in but nearly impossible to catch bobs at all regularly except in snow. I'm new to the Internet thing but enjoy listening to other hunters takes on things. Especially if they run walkers just kiddin. Andy do you get after some lions or just bobs?
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Re: Hey Dirt Hunters, a ?
skipperw, very seldom will run lion maybe a couple times a year, bobcat is my passion. I have seen it done and have done it on the west coast but sure different conditions. Andy
The home of TOPPER AGAIN bred biggame hounds.
Re: Hey Dirt Hunters, a ?
funstuff wrote:it is extremely dry at this formation and elevation. even in the desert areas you still get more dew and frost from the temp changes. i haven't had frost in weeks. it just stays so dry. no moisture, no scent. the humidity stays low, and add a 5mph wind, bam, perfect for the cat to dissolve.
So, what I'm hearing you say is that its mostly about moisture...I've heard some people say the humidity level was important...so if there's more humidity, it's easier scenting conditions? How does the barometer work into the equation? I've heard some people say that scenting conditions are affected by the barometric pressure...is high or low pressure better for running tracks? As for long walks with the dogs, I'd almost rather have no snow so I could do that with my dogs, get to have more interaction with my dogs then just pulling them out and putting them on the track. Good hunting.
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Re: Hey Dirt Hunters, a ?
First, I don't hunt snow or very little if any. All dry ground, and no I don't tree or catch on ground a high percentage of cats started. But, I only hunt 6-10 dogs at one time, with 4-6 of those being young dogs.
Now, hunting in Oklahoma & West Texas can be very frustrating. Races with bobcats killed are not the norm. Good hound music in race and at tree/hole in rocks is typical. Dogs I prefer for bobcats, have some percentage of Running Walker Cat dog Breeding(1/2 at least) with some full Running Walker in pack. I prefer to have some of my pack that will locate & tree and not just run.
Some of my friends, just use Running Walkers and they catch more at this time then I do!!! I hunt with them often and use some of my dogs and some of theirs---really cannot tell much difference in end results. Maybe tree a few more that way?
You folks without snow are experiencing some of what we call fun!
I just returned from SE OK where in three nights/days, dogs ran 4 cats. The longest being 3 hrs. & 40 minutes and never more then 1 mile from where we started this cat. Ended up in rough bluff type mountain, that dogs could not find track out of there nor tree where cat stopped. Many times in race, dogs seemed to about catch cat, but would make a loss. Giving cat time to pull some more tricks!!
I will go out on that limb and state--if a dog cannot get its head up and wind bobcat in dry ground environment & has to smell each track--he will tree limited number of bobcats. Or that is case in my hunting areas anyway.
We had three out of four great races, with out catching or treeing Mr. Bob. I really thing the fourth track we started, the dogs took back track at first, and time they got that figured, the cat was to cold!
Only person that I know of that accomplished more then the above, last year in January-Feb., started 9 bobcats in SE Oklahoma & caught 9 bobcats! I have had pleasure of hunting with his Running Walkers and they are the real thing! They will rig or road starting bobcats either way. Normally with pack of 6 to 10, a race will end in tree, hole, or caught on ground.
Come anytime and we will hunt. We don't shoot cats out and leave more in tree then we take, by far! But do have some great cat races!!
Now, hunting in Oklahoma & West Texas can be very frustrating. Races with bobcats killed are not the norm. Good hound music in race and at tree/hole in rocks is typical. Dogs I prefer for bobcats, have some percentage of Running Walker Cat dog Breeding(1/2 at least) with some full Running Walker in pack. I prefer to have some of my pack that will locate & tree and not just run.
Some of my friends, just use Running Walkers and they catch more at this time then I do!!! I hunt with them often and use some of my dogs and some of theirs---really cannot tell much difference in end results. Maybe tree a few more that way?
You folks without snow are experiencing some of what we call fun!
I just returned from SE OK where in three nights/days, dogs ran 4 cats. The longest being 3 hrs. & 40 minutes and never more then 1 mile from where we started this cat. Ended up in rough bluff type mountain, that dogs could not find track out of there nor tree where cat stopped. Many times in race, dogs seemed to about catch cat, but would make a loss. Giving cat time to pull some more tricks!!
I will go out on that limb and state--if a dog cannot get its head up and wind bobcat in dry ground environment & has to smell each track--he will tree limited number of bobcats. Or that is case in my hunting areas anyway.
We had three out of four great races, with out catching or treeing Mr. Bob. I really thing the fourth track we started, the dogs took back track at first, and time they got that figured, the cat was to cold!
Only person that I know of that accomplished more then the above, last year in January-Feb., started 9 bobcats in SE Oklahoma & caught 9 bobcats! I have had pleasure of hunting with his Running Walkers and they are the real thing! They will rig or road starting bobcats either way. Normally with pack of 6 to 10, a race will end in tree, hole, or caught on ground.
Come anytime and we will hunt. We don't shoot cats out and leave more in tree then we take, by far! But do have some great cat races!!