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roscosrokons wrote:I like a cold nosed dog for hunting bobcats. It doesn't take long for a bobcat track to be considered a cold track. I've ran alot of tracks with a cold nosed hound that most guys around here wouldn't even think of turning out on. Many times these cold tracks will turn into a smoking hot track within just a mile or so. The only problem is that cold nosed dog better be able to pick up his head and start drifting when that track gets hot. Ross

Boy I`m goen too get intreoble here but oh well : Look who said a dog has too be a whole-in-the-wind-spped track dog too successfully put a catch or tree up on a bobcat ?!I`ve seen successfull tracken extra cold nosed hounds that could work a track with brains and nose power and they was experienced and ok it took em longer too get it done,but if ya had the patience too stay back and let them be non interpted at their work/ by thunder the put game at the end of it allmost every time ! I guess if something works why change too fix it ?

cecil j. wrote:

roscosrokons wrote:I like a cold nosed dog for hunting bobcats. It doesn't take long for a bobcat track to be considered a cold track. I've ran alot of tracks with a cold nosed hound that most guys around here wouldn't even think of turning out on. Many times these cold tracks will turn into a smoking hot track within just a mile or so. The only problem is that cold nosed dog better be able to pick up his head and start drifting when that track gets hot. Ross

Boy I`m goen too get intreoble here but oh well : Look who said a dog has too be a whole-in-the-wind-spped track dog too successfully put a catch or tree up on a bobcat ?!I`ve seen successfull tracken extra cold nosed hounds that could work a track with brains and nose power and they was experienced and ok it took em longer too get it done,but if ya had the patience too stay back and let them be non interpted at their work/ by thunder the put game at the end of it allmost every time ! I guess if something works why change too fix it ?

In adition, what does it matter, cold nosed, warm nosed, big dog,small dog/ toothless owlled faced grannie dog,pup a yr old, or a 5 yr old hound : When your comeing up out of the canyon, or droping down of the upper side of a mtn. back too the truck an hace that cat over your shoulders and your dog on a ead and do ya even care is he fast,slow,hell hedone it good,you did your job too and ya have the cat too prove it !

Now cecil be nice. You know what I'm saying. I like a cold nosed hound as much or more than anybody, but when a bobcat gets jumped he better be smart enough to quit straddling that track and get with the program or that cat will just stay ahead of him all day long. I got a big blue male that is a slow going cold tracking s.o.b. A few years back I told my buddies he would never be a bobcat dog. I'll be damned if he didn't make a liar out of me. He can work a cold track that most hounds won't mess with but yet when he gets a bobcat jumped he picks up his head and runs like he's chasing a deer. Ross

roscosrokons wrote:Now cecil be nice. You know what I'm saying. I like a cold nosed hound as much or more than anybody, but when a bobcat gets jumped he better be smart enough to quit straddling that track and get with the program or that cat will just stay ahead of him all day long. I got a big blue male that is a slow going cold tracking s.o.b. A few years back I told my buddies he would never be a bobcat dog. I'll be damned if he didn't make a liar out of me. He can work a cold track that most hounds won't mess with but yet when he gets a bobcat jumped he picks up his head and runs like he's chasing a deer. Ross

Ya know i told about a pair of blues i owned in the 60-63 erra named Smokey River Blue Monk (ole Arkie) 57 lb hound and a Vaughns Blue Blue hecwas every bit of 88 lbs in hard hunten shape. They was a pair and Ole Arkie come from Russelsville Ark. too meand Big Blue come from Guinda Springs Kan. too a friend of mine and i got the dog off him. Arkie was 3 1/2 yrs old when I gothim and Blue was 20 months old and could tree a coon solo also.
I was but 16 and I had a pu truck andlived too hunt and hunted too live! I had this place call nigg32 heven up in the caypay hills I hunted and it led into a canyon with a long ridge on one side, a dry summes time boulders creek at the bottems and accrost on the east/south side was rollen fothills with tons of bluffs and brush and scrubb oak trees. That canyon was called Panther canyon it had a cave in there that lions bedded and raised cubs up in all the time.
The point of all this is, my 2 hounds rum gray fox,coon in the Sacramento River bottems were I was raised on a 20,000 sq.acer farm belonging too an stocks & bonds firm and my adopted father Jack McGilvray was a foreman on that ranch for37 yrs and died there. So I huntedit on foot on friday & saturday nights dureing school months and 4 nights a week dureing summers. Then I took my pickup truck a 2 blues and went too the foot hills hunten some 40 miles or so from my home on the ranch.
Rosco/ let me tell ya a thing I learned right off that stayed with me and in thebig woods oroved samely true./ there was a point on the end of the long ridge bluffwith a granett rock cropping cliff. Growing out of a crevess in those bolders was a big bull pine tree and it looked like one of them bonzized evergreen dwarfted trees growen all narrly and leaning way out and curved like a saddle trunked apparenced and then shot up in a taller leaning out over the canyon cliff edge/looken down maybe 250 ft. too the dry boulder rock creek bottem below.
Ya know my blue dogs fired up track after track and unfor 6-8 hrs each race and would come in after runnen way out of hearing and felled treed up on that same cottenpicken tree ! Some nights is was a coon up, soome night a gray fox, other nights a bobcat, and now and then a mtn lion was up there. You can find a pituclar areathat is set up to tree in a same tree up for all game if ya leave em alone,dont smoke,dont turn-on-a-light and quietly viewit from a far/ the race will come back too that tree and go up. Let the dogs srttle and cast a soft light from a farr off at it and see what briteness how far accrost in span and some time a firey red or gree eyse staren back, other time soft amber of a gray fox and some time amber coon eyes ! Bear hunters learned too walk the woods were ther hunting with no dogs looken for elbowed limb trees and also loken for claw marks goen up them trees ! when ya do come back too run ya might find the game is treed up in one of them elbowed tree limgs ya seen and noted on earler-on.

jack

That's a good story cecil, kind of reminded me of hunting with my dad when I was a kid. We had a big blue male that all of our bloodlines go back to. He was about as cold nosed as they get. My dad would let him chase anything he wanted. Mostly he liked coons but on a bad night it was hard telling what you would end up with, badger, opossum, skunk, porcupine, but he wouldn't touch deer. He was quite a dog. His mom and dad were both straight from old Warren Haslouer. Some nights he would strike a track and my dad would just let out a moan and we would go crawl in the pickup and take a nap. It didn't matter how cold of a trail it was if you were willing to stay there all night sooner or later he would finally finish the track and their was always something there at the end of it(usually coon). Ross

amount of game available determines it for some folks.

In a land where three trucks can not find a bobcat track in two days lookin, you would like a dog that will take a track when you do find one.

on the other hand:

I hunted with Lloyd Bassey in the Southern OR coast range and he would punish his rig dog for rigging on a cold bobcat track. If that dog opened her mouth, she darn well better be able to smoke it out of there when she hit the ground. He wanted nothing but hot tracks, and could find a hot track or two every time he went out.
He was right in calculating that he could run and finish two hot tracks in the time it might take to get a nasty old track warmed up.

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beardogger4life wrote:i have to agree with spanky on location and situation. i have also seen a cold nose dog hit a hot coon track and end up taking it backwards and you end trailing back so far it turns into a big mess.

A dog that hasent learned too track yet will take a back track because its easer too trail backwards! Ya don`t fathom that yet I supose/ think about and ask around and youll find out I`m telling yua a truth too glean and keep and use !

The above was ment for beardogger4life not David