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Your right the fastest dog wasn't much of a coon dog. I think catching a coon on the ground has more to do with the situation and a dog track style, and once they do it I think then it becomes more of a skill. Coon's are not the fastest things on four legs, to compare catching a coon to running a bear, is almost as you said before, comical. But two of the most annoyingly cold nosed track straddlers I ever knew caught a lot of coons on the ground, they were not fast even by coondog standards.

I think that if someone really knows there stuff, does the homework, and makes the right cross, that they could absolutely get good bear dogs by breeding to a dog like Sid. Anyone who says different is pretty hard headed. But in a perfect world, all top big game dogs would be out of top big game dogs, and they would reproduce top big game dogs. But we all know it isn't so.

I just think there won't be a huge interest in breeding to a dog that does not run bear. No one I know of would breed a top beardog female to a coondog. Getting a pup out of him is a different story. I think breeding him to another top coondog and having pups go to big game hunters is a more likely senerio.

Are you as good lookin as that cartoon chick in your avatar?

Sorry mam, I couldnt resist. I agree with everything you just said.................darlin'.

Dan Edwards wrote:Are you as good lookin as that cartoon chick in your avatar?

Sorry mam, I couldnt resist. I agree with everything you just said.................darlin'.

Hah, I wish.

It dont matter anyhow, I aint picky.

Sorry to hijack the thread with my piss poor attempt at internet seduction.

LOL. Trust me your trying to seduce the wrong girl. I'm a hard headed, opinionated, know it all, who's color blind with too little age and experiance to even have a say in such matters.

I, unlike my dogs, have a tendancy to babble.

Thats good. I like a woman with a little bit of attitude. Duct tape will take care of the babbling.

I also forgot to mention I'm a little ill tempered, rattle headed, unmannered and trashy. I've got heart and drive though! If that don't sound like a typical Walker woman

Thats why the Lord gave us shockin collars.

You generally don't see a whole lot of bear dogs offered up for stud. If by some reason a certain stud dog throws dogs that do well on bear, people will come find you.

I personally wouldn't purposely breed to a dog who comes back on bear. I don't think you'd have good odds to get ones that would stick on a mean one. Hell you've got a hard enough time with that when you breed two dog that excell on bear.

Nolte wrote:You generally don't see a whole lot of bear dogs offered up for stud. If by some reason a certain stud dog throws dogs that do well on bear, people will come find you.

I personally wouldn't purposely breed to a dog who comes back on bear. I don't think you'd have good odds to get ones that would stick on a mean one. Hell you've got a hard enough time with that when you breed two dog that excell on bear.

Well, I can tell he hasnt been drinkin all day. He is being way too serious.

I'm with you Nolte. I wouldnt breed to a dog that came back on bear no matter what hes throwing. I have had guys tell me that you could breed to a useless dog and have great pups if the bloodlines click but you wouldnt get me to do it. I would want a real bear dog that is throwing bear dogs. I'm not saying that a non bear dog couldnt produce bear dogs but I certainly like the chances better with a stud thats a bear dog himself.Now I've had some good bear dogs that came from parents who were coondogs only and had never smelled a bear BUT still like the odds better the other way.

I would probably do it if I were in my 20's, seems I did alot back then that made no sense at all, but I'm in my "Early" 40's and getting a little wiser, no younger, and a whole lot more opinionated.
I agree with Nolte, if there is a true beardog offered at stud, people generally start making arrangements pretty fast to breed to him. And very few are allowed to be bred to just anything.

To be honest with ya'll I could care less about who breeds to him for what reasons.

We've bred 3 bear females and the owners have rebooked to breed again. Most of Sid's bear pups arent for sale. They are some extremely fast, hard track driving tree dogs. We've had several people tell us they just cant believe them in the bear woods. Von Plemmons owns a female named Lil' Bit, and she's the head of his bear pack. He said he's bear hunted for 50 years, and never seen anything like her. He now owns 10 Sid pups/young dogs, and seems to be satisfied with them all.

The ones that goes to bear hunters, bear hunt. The ones that go to coon and bear hunters do both. The ones that are owned by competition coon hunters, have all titled out.

I'm just saying that if people like Sackett bred bear dogs, then I was wondering how they were Sackett bred and if they were closely related to Sid.

I know Frank threw alot of bear dogs, and I was wondering if that might be where the "bear" instinct comes from in them.

Christy..

I know my female is a granddaughter to Babe's Stylish Banjo on the topside and Sackett's Ringo on the bottom side... She goes back to Lipper quite a bit too.. I am not exactly sure where her "big game" is coming from, but I will take it

Christy wrote:To be honest with ya'll I could care less about who breeds to him for what reasons.

We've bred 3 bear females and the owners have rebooked to breed again. Most of Sid's bear pups arent for sale. They are some extremely fast, hard track driving tree dogs. We've had several people tell us they just cant believe them in the bear woods. Von Plemmons owns a female named Lil' Bit, and she's the head of his bear pack. He said he's bear hunted for 50 years, and never seen anything like her. He now owns 10 Sid pups/young dogs, and seems to be satisfied with them all.

The ones that goes to bear hunters, bear hunt. The ones that go to coon and bear hunters do both. The ones that are owned by competition coon hunters, have all titled out.

I'm just saying that if people like Sackett bred bear dogs, then I was wondering how they were Sackett bred and if they were closely related to Sid.

I know Frank threw alot of bear dogs, and I was wondering if that might be where the "bear" instinct comes from in them.

I was on an open hunt cast out of the twin lakes clubof Arurra Ky. hunting my black dog ( Mr. Latch) on a cast Jimmy Smith was the hunten guide& judge and had a young walker and there was an old female walker (Gouger) and this 10 month old hummunguse tall & long walker pup out of the Lipper sperm bank also on this hunt.
We treed a coon and then hooked up on a bear and the dogs got him cornered and as screaming at hime and the ole Gouager hunter horn called his bitch off and that left 2 dogs on the bear . I tryed too get down inthere on the ground and too getmy dog and he kept comeing out of the tree andyou could smell the green brush greaseon him and he finally treed up too stay up and the dogs settled and they wasleashed back and bear seen up and all . That was summer and it was very hot out and the 3 hounds was extreamly hot but did a fair nuff job on it and that Houses Leaper offspring sure showed he had the right blood in him for it too !