wondering about B&Ts

[blackandtan79]

if you feel tough with a big slow slobber mouth purebred as you said that will run in the shade of an apple tree all day long. you need to get in the woods with a dog with a little speed and stamina.like them good lookin dogs of outlaws and mine and you might grow up to be a real tough guy one day.

[blackandtan79]

if you feel tough with a big slow slobber mouth dog like you said that will run in the shade of an apple tree all day long maybe you need to get in the woods with a dog with a little speed and stamina. maybe you will grow up to be a real man one day.

[blackandtan79]

if a big slow slobber mouth dog. that will run in the shade of an apple tree all day long.you need to get in the woods with a real black and tan that has a little speed and stamina like mine and outlaws. and maybe you will grow up to be a real man one day like us mountian men.

[Outlaw 3]

My thoughts exactly. I don't need a dog I can outrun! The Black and tan standard is for there ears to reach the end of there nose. They are to be black and tan colored without any patches of white. They are to have pencil lines on there toes. They should not be too black to where you can't see their markings. My dogs meet all these standards.

Why in the world would you think I could breed a big (120lbs) slow Rottweiler with a big (90 lbs)slow black and tan and get a smaller 65lbs tight built fast rot n tan cross. You must not know much about breeding dogs. If you accused me of crossing with a plott or a walker you could argue that case and maybe make a little sense, but you would think that eventually some of the off color would come out in them. I know maybe I bred a rotty with a black and tan weiner dog to get something in the middle . I understand where you coming from though I mean if they don't tree bear who cares as long as they kick their ears when they walk .

Me and everyone else on here could care less what makes you feel rugged I feel safe to say. The only time I care if my dogs are slobber mouthed is when they are treeing .

[blackandtan79]

thats my point outlaw why would anyone want a big slow dog like that. if he wants to get tough he needs to come to the mountians of north carolina or Tennesse and hunt with some real dogs he will feel real rugged.

[Outlaw 3]

Different strokes for different folks I guess. Huntin can be tough anywhere for different reasons but those dogs have a real hard time keepin up through the thick brush when it gets steep.

[blackandtan79]

True.we hunt all over and them big dogs have trouble runnin with our dogs every where ive been. by the way thats a fine lookin hound in the last pic.

[Outlaw 3]

One of the best Bear Dogs I ever hunted with was a Trackdown Black and Tan. He was a pretty big dog but had the heart and drive to make up for it. He had his hip and back broke by a bear which he somehow recovered from. It slowed him down a lot but he would always get to the tree even if he was 40 minutes behind. We called him The Black and Tan becuase he was the only one any of us had hunted with at the time. He is the reason I tried the black and tans I have now. They are out there but I prefer the smaller tighter built dogs.

[gkckak]

outlaw3 I totally respect what you are saying. No need for everyone to get pissed off I was just implying Hey That don't look Like my black and tan which is the true one. Yours might be the same but smaller and thats fine. I personally like the bigger ones with medium speed which is just fine.

[Outlaw 3]

If you were trying to say mine look different than yours you have a funny way of saying it. You said "

outlaw 3. your black and tan is not purebred. The original and best hunting black and tans look similar to a bloodhound just in much better shape. should weigh 60-100lbs long ears slobbered up mouth deep chest medium length neck. All the b &tans picutre I have seen on this thread dont look like the original.

I have four BTs right now not one. They are purebred as far as anyone knows. All my males do weigh over 60 lbs in running shape which is probably a lot bigger than you think since mine are in hunting shape to catch game and not big, fat, ear kicken, drooling, and droopy to make me feel rugged. If I kept mine as fat as a lot of people they might hit 70lbs. I very seriously doubt that you have better hunting black and tans for bear than the ones I am feeding . That is not bragging that is being honest and like they say a picture is worth a thousand words. I have hunted these dogs with packs of all walkers that they could outrun and packs of all plotts that they were grittier than. They are open mouthed trail dogs with big bawl mouths. Everyone of them trees like a machine gun. They are the coldest nosed dogs around here I don't know how cold they need to be but they get it done. I have the only pack of BTs in my area because everyone has tried the bloodhound look alikes and know they are too slow. Even the bigger BT bear dogs from Duncan and Trackdown are tight muscular dogs with good feet and are not bloodhoundish and drooly as you describe. There is a good reason why those are hard to find.




If you don't want everyone pissed off then don't go around accusing people of lying and passing off mixed up dogs as purebreds without any evidence. I already stated that my dogs meet the breed standard. They are out of Albert breeding top and bottom. Maybe you should get on the UKCs case and stop pestering people who prefer hunting dogs over show dogs.

[blackandtan79]

me and my dad have eight all total and now days these walkers that are supposed to be so fast and aggresive cant even seem to stay in the race with our b&t dogs. they are built and look awhole lot like yours. my grampa brought this strain of b&t probaly 40 years ago and they just keep gettin better every generation.hey where in tennesse are you.

[Outlaw 3]

I am in Southeast, TN.

I sent you a PM.

Here is a picture of the old Trackdown Black and Tan I was talking about before. He was a beast of a bear dog you can see his back legs are bowed kinda funny from having his back and hip broke. He also had to have his tail docked as a result. Even half handicapped over 10 years old in this pic and you can see the tight muscles on this dog chest and legs. He had large ears and weighed about 80lbs so hopefully no-one will be offended.

[Outlaw 3]

Here is a slobbermouthed dog for you


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[gkckak]

Hey outlaw. I am not going around accusing and yelling at people for having mixed dogs. Stop trying to make it sound like I am the bad guy. I simply said that does not look like a true black and tan on one of your photos. Your last photo you posted looks exactly like mine and the true breed. And I only feed my dogs Iams and they are some great dogs and I am not showng off.

[blackandtan79]

i am right across the smokies i am in western nc.that old hound looks like he paid his dues.tough guy is still trying to act like he was not bad mouthin your dogs aint he.