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i agree with you 100% as you know in this country we need a locating tree dog. i would feel a lot more comfortable breeding my female to a running dog and keep two pups and go from there. there is a ton of people out there that believe in the breed a good tree dog to a poor tree dog and get a medium tree dog. same with the tracking and the speed and the striking. but i agree with you 99 % of the time you will get one or the other. it sure does excite me to think about maybe getting into some of this running dog stuff. like ive said before i have hunted with some in the past not running walkers but triggs. they can sure put the boogie on one. keep em coming fun and friendly

Jake, If dads dog boy PM'd you a number for some guys who cat hunt in georgia, I would go for that stock. Im pretty sure they guys run the old burbon liquour strand of dogs. I have a 6 year old gyp i bought from a guy who got her out of georgia, IM 99% positive, she is gonna be from the line Dad dog boy was talking about, she has the best nose of any of my hounds, she strikes and moves tracks that some of my other cold nose dogs walk over or give up on, can punish a track once jumped and can/will tree at a hole or a tree, she loves to bite a piece of game as well.....not a bad locate dog either. If i cant get my gyp to catch next time i try to breed her, i am going down to get some from the guys who breed that stock, i love the one I have. it would be a long trip but well worth it in my opinion. I never met any of the guys, never talked to them, but if they are breeding the stock i think they are, it is well worth the time to try that stock of running walker.
Perk

In responce to catdog360 yes i did buy a kemp dog and she is a damn nice dog.If you read my referal right it says she should make (ONE) of my next main dogs.My kemp female can really drive a track and trees ok but she is not doing as well in the rigging and cold trailing dept as some my young dogs.I hope it will improve this season because i would like to make a cross with with kemps blood line and mine.
AL.

This is only based on some limited experience with running hounds but they seem to LEARN to slow down on hard or cold tracks as they are hunted and mature. Where some of the more nose down trailing dogs learn to run faster when required. These are average types not the occasional perfect hound that will pound a old track or smoke n drift a hot track.

There is a guy in Geogia named Charels Tyree spelling may be different but anyways I got a running walker from him that is liqour bred that will rig and tree good on bear and cats both. Also I seen dadsdogboy mention Jerry King, he was one of my steady hunting partners in Ca, if you need help getting in contact with him give me a call. The key to getting a running dog to tree is to get them looking up early and often. You will not make a tree dog out of one a day or two a week a couple months a year. The reason you see more running walkers in the horn is because they dominate the pen hunts. The wakers are faster than a trigg and tougher day after day than a july. I have also had good luck getting julys to tree. You can not expect them to tree as young as a coon dog but with hard hunting and time most will make tree dogs in any country. When they are young tie them as soon as you get to a tree to keep them from wondering if they are wondering or back tracking shock them back to the tree. Dogs are creaters of habit be consistant.

she is not doing as well in the rigging and cold trailing dept

I can most definately believe that.

pegleg wrote:This is only based on some limited experience with running hounds but they seem to LEARN to slow down on hard or cold tracks as they are hunted and mature. Where some of the more nose down trailing dogs learn to run faster when required. These are average types not the occasional perfect hound that will pound a old track or smoke n drift a hot track.

Pegleg, I really admire your honesty cause these are the same things that I have noticed.

Foxhunter, nice post also. I agree with what you said not that it matters but I did.

Thanks Dan I strive to be forthcoming however I may be proven wrong through ignorance. I believe everyone and every strain of hounds has something that it could do better and when we admit that we are closer to the solution.

pegleg wrote:Thanks Dan I strive to be forthcoming however I may be proven wrong through ignorance. I believe everyone and every strain of hounds has something that it could do better and when we admit that we are closer to the solution.

I couldnt agree more but you have definately got me thinkin about something else now also.

And that is Dan?

Oh just some silly shit thats all. I just have seen certain strains or "breeds" lacking in certain qualities and always wondered why dont people just add what they need. Then if I am ignorant enough to actually come out and say it, you would think I just used the Lords name in vein. It never has made sense to me.

For instance, folks are still tryin to catch coyotes with foxhounds. That shit dont make no sense to me and it never will.

Dan
I got a coyote story for you.
I was hunting cats the other night.
I turned dogs in a 100 acre woods to see if cat was there.
About 5 min later an old coyote started up, he was really mad
that we had trspassed on his ground. He was really scolding & got really close.
My cat dogs come back to the truck, I am glad they did,
I don,t want them fooling with coyotes.
I had wildfire the july female we talked about,
in the box, I had not let her out. She will not run a cat, she will not even go with my dogs, when they get hot on a cat she comes back to the truck.
The coyote just kept it up & came closer
I got my big light & shined him in the ditch.
I let wild fire out & sent her to him.
She got to him & made a couple of booger barks & then
it was quite for about 30 seconds,
Then she started up with her machine gun chop.
The coyote made a few close circles, then left for a new zip code.
About 6 miles later I finally got her caught.
Thought u would like a coyote story
Milt

Thats exactly how it goes brother. Most wouldnt understand why it was quiet for 30 seconds but we do.

Hipshooter, you just made me think of something. That trait right there that is in your female. Her ability to lift that coyote by herself, especially at night. There is a trait that you dont see in very many running hounds especiallly the running walkers. There are some that can do it but strictly speakin of running dogs, I see that ability much more in the July dogs or in the half and halfs.