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Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 7:03 am
by Lynxhunter
Thanks, Liontracker. Dont know about the eye, it was just one of those times when you like a hound the second you see it. By the way
But that light colored Blue looks a lot like Scout or the other one everyone is confusing with Scout?
- That should probably have give me a sign to what hound it was....

Thanks anyways,
Hans

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:09 pm
by Brady Davis
That was a sharp looking hound. When it's going through the dogs I'm watching like ...Blue, B&t, and then WHAM...the dog shows up and my interest peaked!

So, was Scout Bill's top hound?

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:21 pm
by liontracker
Yes, let me find a pic.
Scout-GS bluetick cross.jpg

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:57 pm
by Majestic Tree Hound
ACTUALY YOU COULD SAY SCOUT COULD HAVE BEEN THE FIRST
"AMERICAN BLUE GASCON"


Scout is in the Major amount of Photos .. I just guessing but I think Bill liked him the most !! .. LOL

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By the way I need some hi Res copys of these photos Please .. I have a Wall started thats All Bill Green !!

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Sat Aug 29, 2009 3:15 pm
by Brady Davis
Nice pics guys. Very nice looking hound.

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:02 am
by blueticker78
there is alot of good information and history being passed here I don'tThink all American blue Gascon houndsmen realize some of the breeding and people responsable for creating these hounds I think you need to know two things in order to better a type strain or breed of hound they are as much history on them as possible and a goal in mind for the future there's much more to the big picture but if you don't know these two things then where will you ever get. I think you right lion tracker about the dark trim most French bleus I have seen have lighter trim I think the dark comes from breeding for it and down sizing your hounds will define the trim and make it darker you can see this in the petite bleus

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Sun Aug 30, 2009 1:20 pm
by liontracker
For too many years years people have been blindly following the opinions of inflated ego's, without any real proof of those opinions. Now with the power of the internet, things are coming to light on the actual crosses and breedings that created the finest Biggame Bred Big Blues in America. It's one thing to know the names behind the breedings, but very inlightening to see the pics. Pics don't lie...people do.

As for the rich mahogany trim, I bet Black&Tan.

In a few years here, the DNA labs will have the genetic markers identified to the extent that they will be able to tell you exactly what breeds were crossed to produce your Bluetick.

You have to remember that the Bluetick "breed" has only existed for 50 yrs. What about the prior 100 yrs. or so?

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:52 pm
by liontracker
Look at the different tail spot markings in the pics. One dog has the spot at the base and it is bigger. The other dog has the spot on the tail and it is smaller. Also look at the eye patches, one is pale and one is dark. One dog has a spot on the back behind the shoulders and one doesn't. I think these are two different dogs.

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:59 pm
by blueticker78
Lion Tracker are you refering to just the two pics above?

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:45 pm
by liontracker
All three. I think top dog and bottom dog are the same, middle, different dog.

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 10:25 am
by blueticker78
I think you are right not just the markings are different but I think the hound standing with bill in the middle picture has a slightly larger head as well, I dont think they are the same dogs now the other two pics top and bottom are the same dog you can pretty easily tell they are you can see enough of there body to compare them.

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 12:53 pm
by liontracker
And then the one in the color video clip Steve posted and Brady D. commented on is a third! Some kind of uniformity from F1 crosses, huh?

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:13 pm
by Majestic Tree Hound
I think the Different one is the one in the Film with the Big Coon and the 1939-40 Ford, That Hound has a Upside down Arrow Head on the left side and does'nt have the smaller Black band where the tail adjoins the body..

Yes I dated the Ford By the Front Grill online !! lol

Way To much Time on my hands !!
Well not really "I'am Not Getting my Day Jobs Done" (The one I get Paid For)

Gezz Wheres John when we need him !! lol

This is Scout Also .. John even told me .. lol

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Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:38 pm
by liontracker
That's obviously the dog in the middle pic. It shows more bloodhound, huh Steve?

Re: American Blue Gascons

Posted: Wed Sep 02, 2009 1:56 pm
by Majestic Tree Hound
liontracker wrote:That's obviously the dog in the middle pic. It shows more bloodhound, huh Steve?
He sure has alot of "Turkey Neck" As the Old Houndsmen Say... We'l Find Whats in Him

"Alittle of This and Alittle of that" Then "Test" "Then Add A Little more of That"
Then "Test" Some More !!

We Gettin Close !! lol

Hey Tim I'am Having the Photo above worked on at Special Photo Shop to have it made into a 8 x 10 .. Thats why I'am looking for a Higher Qty of the one with Bill in it Done