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Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 11:26 am
by CRA
livetohunt wrote:Has anyone got in touch with the NRA for help in this fight? Or the NWTF, Ducks Unlimited, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation? We need all the help we can in this fight and the big boys have the power to help.



Many groups were called upon and asked by CHC if they would send a letter of opposition opposing senate bill 1221. Here is a list of groups that did respond to our much needed help and wrote letters.

CHC V/P George Checca would be way more qualified to answer these questions. Mr. Checca was the one who worked long hours talking with these groups trying to get them to write a letter of opposition toward the senate bill. Here is a list of actual Associations that took the time to write an opposition letter on our behalf.


OPPOSITION
Barnum Timber Company
California Cattlemen's Association
California Houndsmen for Conservation
California Outdoor Heritage Alliance
California Rifle and Pistol Association
California Sportsman's Lobby
California Waterfowl Association
Central California Sporting Dog Association
Modesto Houndsmen Association
National Shooting Sports Foundation
Outdoor Sportsmen's Coalition of California
Safari Club International
Shasta County Cattlemen's Association
Siskiyou County Board of Supervisors
U.S. Sportsmen's Alliance
Thousands of Individuals

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:24 pm
by outlaw13
Does the CHC have a lawyer? I am sure that there is 1 hunter out there that is a lawyer that would represent at no to little cost if asked.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 2:49 pm
by RIFLEMAN
I think he is stating that those that did not oppose the vote will be notified that they are not receiving their vote.

As I indicated, I understand his purpose and was stating that I hoped he would use his words carefully and avoid telling them to go to Hell.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:03 pm
by Justin B
I don't know if this has been shared yet but here you guys go. Mr. Sexton from USSA and that guy from The society that wants to ban all hunting. Also take note "that guy" says hounds aren't used on deer and elk. Uh maybe cause they don'.t stop running or tree! Have fun listening to this. :beer


http://www.ussportsmen.org/video/ussa-t ... nting-ban/.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:24 pm
by RIFLEMAN
Here's the actual list of organizations that formally oppose SB 1221...why this list didn't make the legislative analysis is beyond me:

American Kennel Club
Archery Trade Association
Bear Hunting Magazine
Beekeepers of California
Big Sur Hounds
Boone & Crockett Club
Bowhunting Preservation Alliance
California Bowmen Hunters/State Archery Association
California Cattlemen’s Association
California Farm Bureau
California Federation of Dog Clubs
California Field Trial Association
California Houndsmen for Conservation
California Outdoor Heritage Alliance
California Waterfowl Association
Camp Fire Club of America
Central California Sporting Dogs Association
Conservation Force
Little Shasta Houndsmen Association
Masters of Foxhounds Association
Mendo Lake Houndsmen Association
Modesto Houndsmen Association
Mule Deer Foundation
National Rifle Association
National Shooting Sports Foundation
National Trappers Association
North American Bear Foundation
North Central California Houndsmen Association
Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation
Safari Club International
Scott River Houndsmen
Shasta Cascade Houndsmen
Siskiyou Houndsmen & Sportsmen
Southern California Houndsmen Association
Southern San Joaquin Houndsmen
Sportsmen’s & Animal Owners’ Voting Alliance
Stockton Houndsmen Club, Inc.
Tri-County Houndsmen Association
Tule River Houndsmen
United Houndsmen of California
United Kennel Club
U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance
West Hills Hunt
Whitetails Unlimited
Wildcat Creek Sporting Dogs
Wild Sheep Foundation
Wilderness Unlimited

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:29 pm
by RIFLEMAN
Does the CHC have a lawyer? I am sure that there is 1 hunter out there that is a lawyer that would represent at no to little cost if asked.

CHC does have legal representation and invokes his assistance on an as-needed basis. However, as this matter is in the legislature rather than the courts, I'm not sure what could be done by an attorney.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:32 pm
by RIFLEMAN
Hi Justin,
Also take note "that guy" says hounds aren't used on deer and elk. Uh maybe cause they don'.t stop running or tree! Have fun listening to this

Wayne Pacelle, CEO of HSUS, made several errors during the KPCC program; one of which is that hounds aren't used for deer...the use of dogs is legal for deer hunting here in California.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 4:01 pm
by rhromm
Rifleman, why not go on the attack as the HSUS has? I realize this situation is trictly defense, but adding a little offense may help. I posted an idea in a thread below.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:00 pm
by KLS
If you read my quote i meant to thank those who voted for us or didn't vote at all,(NO)
why would i tell those who voted for us to go to hell? But those Senators that i wrote and called several times and faxed including the Senator in my area, i let them know i will never support them again and will work for their defeat in the next election, it's not like the Senator would get on the phone anyways so i could tell him what i thought of him.but givin the chance i might :lol: they don't give a damn about us anyway's!!

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:07 pm
by outlaw13
I believe that he is trying to keep people more on the politically correct side of things. The last thing we need is to 500 houndsmen calling and saying F U to all of the senators who supported 1221. That would just make us all look bad and help their cause even more. Let them know you will do what you can to keep them from being re-elected because of the way that they voted but don't act like the savage they are trying to portray us as already.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:05 pm
by Kyleodus
Does anyone know when the next hearing will be more or less

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 7:18 pm
by Peter Meyer
The bill now goes to the Senate Committee on Appropriations, the meeting is Monday May 7, 11:00 am room 4203 at the Capitol in Sacramento.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:09 pm
by Kyleodus
Will we get to say our side again or is it a closed door kinda thing. Don't know how good or bad of an idea this but let our hounds "do some of the talking" because after all they didn't hear us so maybe they will hear our dogs.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:24 pm
by Redwood Coonhounds
I'd also like to know. I had to switch days off around to get out of work on Tues. With such short notice, there is no way I can get that Monday off working at an Emergency Vet Hosp, we're short handed as it is Mondays.

Re: BILL INTRODUCED TO BAN PURSUIT OF BEAR AND BOBCAT IN CA

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 8:48 pm
by Peter Meyer
The meeting is open to the public