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CRA wrote:

Dale T wrote:The shit just keeps coming:

Appropriations Committee is planning to bypass suspense and pass SB1221 out of committee to the Senate floor. This is clearly a railroad job designed to minimize our participation in the process. Therefore, we need to ask everyone to come to the Capitol as on April 24th. We know this is a done deal. There may be less of an opportunity to state our opposition, but we need to keep up the heat anyway. We will use this day to walk around to Senate offices and express our opposition.
So people should:

1.) Arrive at 8:30 and assemble at the hearing room 4203.

2.) The hearing is scheduled for 11:00am.

3.) We will visit Senate offices after the hearing.

4.) Plan to spend all day at the Capitol.

5.) The Senate vote could come as early as May 14th !


Got to love it!

California Hound Hunter's,

I hope everyone pays close attention to what Dale posted because we as hound hunters are being railroaded. I know CHC posted that it wasn't necessary to have everyone make an appearance to the appropriations committee, but that was before we knew that they wanted to really play dirty hardball.

Now get this, the figure they (when I say they I mean the supporting party) came up with that the State of California will lose if the bill passes in revenue is 129,000.00. That's right 129 thousands dollars state wide. What a joke! Hell the out of staters spend more than that!

They have been playing dirty hardball for a while now as we stay politically correct. This whole campaign of 1221 has been nothing but lies deciet and money talking. The CHC needs to start making drastic decisions about what needs to be done before it is to late. As i have said before we need to start fighting fire with fire instead of trying to put there fire out with our garden hose.

Here is a link to Ca Fish and Game licence and tag sale revenues.

http://www.dfg.ca.gov/licensing/pdffile ... s_2000.pdf

I buy my family about 6 licenses and tags a year, just so I can run all my dogs during deer season. Looks like they better sharpen their pencil and add some zero's to the 129,000.

i hope some one is bring all this info to them in a few days, writen info... at the least, us out-a-staters have been sending emails stating what we have spent in california per year to hunt, with just the guys i know we should be over the 15k mark just with one year down there. i sent them my cali hunting #. out of all the money, it was to just run the dogs, persuit only. i dont think the anti's know how many guys dont kill bear every year. in or out of state.
Brian

Yes, Folks we need all to show up on May 7th, the information is true, what Dale T and CRA posted we must show up and let them know this will not be tolereated...
Tell everyone to come and and show your presence!!!
Yeager

CHC has changed there previous statement not to show up in force, but now after this B.S. the game has changed we need to be there in even bigger numbers than on the 24th.

Dale

I wish they would make up their dam mind.

BOSS HOG wrote:I wish they would make up their dam mind.

Trust me I feel the same way. Its a 500 mile round trip for me to go to Sacramento. Its rumored that it may go to the floor as early as May 14th! I believe its the supporters way for us not to gather in so many numbers. They know we all have jobs and families to support.

By the time its done I will have driven over 1500 miles just to make all the committees. That's tough with the high gas prices. But I will do what it takes to win this bill! I know thousands of others feel the same way. We need to stay strong and fight till the end.

Where did the info saying that 1221 was passing strait through appropriations and going to the senate floor come from? I recieved the email from Irv as well but is this info fact? Where did it come from and why is there such a breakdown in communication that possibly a large portion of us simply won't be there because they were told to stay home??

Well those who have numbers to some of these members needs to be on the phone with them and get them to the Capital on Monday! Or even if you know where they live, stop by and say hello, let them know what's going on.

Baffled. $129,000. Are you freaking kidding me!?. Clint's right. Boxing gloves need to come out. Time for us to give them the finger, then give them a left hook. Maybe a swift kick to the balls.

yeager wrote:Pete, your right, anyone can attend the meeting on the 7th but as we have been advised it will most likely be a close door meeting and your attendance will be unnoticed.
Also, in regards to the Media, I was urging folks to refrain from speaking with Mr. Noyles or Channel 7 and any other main stream as I also believe that they will not have our best interest...
Good Luck
Yeager

How can you expect the public to hear your perspective if you don't talk to the media? I have no one's interests in mind besides telling as accurate and balanced of a story as I can. I'll be there Monday.

Dan Noyes
ABC 7 News
dan.noyes@abc.com

How are we supposed to call out these people on their lies? I'll have to agree with Mr. Noyes. These antis just keep posting articles about how horrible hunting is and the loss of revenues isn't going to be that much. But where are our articles and news clips showing this SPORT is not horrible and call all the antis and "wonderful" politicians out on their 99% lies they keep coming out with to get this horrible bill passed. 129,000 in revenue really!!!? Look at F&G stats over $500,000. Tags alone. Yet politicians are really going to pass it to the floor!? Sorry I may sound redundant but I'm just extremely sick at how this is going. I'm new to this SPORT and do not want to lose it.
Justin

Oh and here is another Anti media piece.
http://www.vcstar.com/news/2012/apr/28/ ... hods-used/

Dan Noyes if you really want to print the truth how about looking the true story behind the HSUS, at the -1% of there budget actually going to the shelters that most all there member don't know even about and that 48% of there budget go's to salaries and pensions, plus that there entire agenda is to shut down all hunting in the US.

I agree Dale, Mr, Noyles here is a video you can air on Channel 7 with your story have a look...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XTrhQd9G ... ture=share

***here is another:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXujefcW ... ture=share

Tell me what you think Mr. Noyles please inform the Public; I think this is a good defense for us Houndsmen of the hypocrisy behind this Bill and the lack of Credibility to the supporters of SB 1221...what an embarrassment to the senators behind BILL SB 1221?
Thank you
Yeager

Mr. Noyles, You want the Truth?
Well here it is... One last video to show you from CEO Wayne Pacelle what he entends to do with all hunting in CA listen and watch closely and PLEASE inform the public of his hidden agendas!
Thank you
Here is the Video>>>>

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJUiSjSw ... re=related

Thank you
Yeager

Noyes,

Here's some facts that should be breaking news for your bay area viewers. If you want a story run this!

Pets Killed by PETA
Year Received Transferred-Adopted Killed

2011 1,992 34 24 1.21% 1,911 95.9%
2010 2,345 63 44 1.86% 2,200 93.8%
2009 2,366 31 8 0.34% 2,301 97.3%
2008 2,216 34 7 0.32% 2,124 95.8%
2007 1,997 35 17 0.85% 1,815 90.9%
2006 3,061 46 12 0.39% 2,981 97.4%
2005 2,165 69 146 6.74% 1,946 89.9%
2004 2,655 1 361 13.60% 2,278 85.8%
2003 2,224 1 312 14.03% 1,911 85.9%
2002 2,680 2 382 14.25% 2,298 85.7%
2001 2,685 14 703 26.18% 1,944 72.4%
2000 2,681 28 624 23.27% 2,029 75.7%
1999 1,805 91 386 21.39% 1,328 73.6%
1998* 943 125 133 14.10% 685 72.6%
Total 31,815 574 3,159

People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, an organization known for its uncompromising animal-rights positions, killed more than 95 percent of the pets in its care in 2011.

Fifteen years’ worth of similar records show that since 1998 PETA has killed more than 27,000 animals at its headquarters in Norfolk, VA.

PETA has a $37 million dollar annual budget.