hunting instincts hurt by castration

[mn. deep dark blues]

I have never cut any my males or spyed a female . my males all eat together my 6 males are from 11yrs to 3 months in one pen and my females are about 50 feet away in a pen and i never hunt them together it works for me so far.

[imchestnut]

At what age to do you usually nueter males and why?

[houndnem]

At what age to do you usually nueter males and why?

if I'm not planning on breeding a male I will fix him by one year old. it seems to make a male dog pay attention and hunt alot better. no accidents to worry about. they don't try to hump everything that moves and fight the other males for dominance.

females, make sure they have a litter of pups before you fix them or it will make them growly/ fighty . bad. I don't know if you have ever had a female come into heat and you take them hunting, but it's a train wreck!

down side to this is I have fixed females and males and later on on wish I could breed them, but it's like it was said earlier, would they be your favorite dog if you didn't fix them in the first place?

[BearKisser]

What works for me on growley males is tea spoon salt peter
Only had 1 it didn't work on he just hated all male dogs.
I gave it to them every day for about 5-6 days strait then
acouple times a week this worked on most of them.
You have to every day with some that you have to figure out
with your own dog every 1 is differnt. I had afew after 6 months to a year
I didn't need to any more hope this helps.
It didn't slow any of them down or bother there smelling anything
they were run on cat & bear, coon

God Bless

[dry ground]

If more male's were cut, and stop breeding junk dog's the hound world would be a better place. That would put alot of want-a-be's out of bussiness .

[DirtAddict]

What works for me on growley males is tea spoon salt peter
Only had 1 it didn't work on he just hated all male dogs.
I gave it to them every day for about 5-6 days strait then
acouple times a week this worked on most of them.
You have to every day with some that you have to figure out
with your own dog every 1 is differnt. I had afew after 6 months to a year
I didn't need to any more hope this helps.
It didn't slow any of them down or bother there smelling anything
they were run on cat & bear, coon

God Bless

Don't want to argue, and if it works for you that's great. But I would be careful with that sodium Nitrate (salt peter).

It could be they are not growly because they are not feeling well. Documented effects include high blood pressure, anemia, kidney disease, and overall weakness. It also depresses heart rate.

There's really no evidence that salt peter reduces male sexual drive directly. I say directly because it could indirectly affect sexual drive by making your dogs not feel well. If your dogs are under the weather, they are probably less likely to want to fight.

I am certainly not a Vet. I don't know how the amount you are giving your dogs compares to what they used to put in food as a preservative. I guess if you are not noticing any performance reduction in hunting, then no harm no foul. But it can't hurt to watch for long term health effects.

[artrodex]

DOES SPAYING AND NEUTERING REDUCE AGGRESSION?


Does spaying and neutering reduce aggression in canines where a claim can be made that it will protect the public? A significant number of canines that have been sterilized are responsible for killing people and data shows high numbers of sterilized canines show up on dog bite incident reports.

ACF(American Canine Foundation) is preparing response briefs in our federal lawsuit, Defense attorneys in their briefs are making claims that spay and neuter will protect the public by stopping canine aggression. ACF is moving forward in our federal lawsuit against LA County, San Francisco and California State Agencies.

Below is a text taken from data using scientific proof from an FDA Federal Study addressing testosterone in canines:

DR POLLEY DVM
Addressing The Testosterone Issue

"Testosterone plays a role in modulating certain behaviors such as roaming, urine marking in-doors, sexual mounting and aggression toward other dogs
(versus playful activity or dominance). Neutersol reduces the male hormone, testosterone, by 41-52% while surgical castration reduces testosterone by 95%. These behaviors may persist after either neutering method.

While testosterone plays a role in affecting certain sexually dimorphic behaviors, it is not the only factor. In fact, the veterinary behavioral textbooks point out that there are multiple contributing factors with regard
to these behaviors. Surgical castration does not completely eliminate these behaviors. The controlled scientific studies that have assessed the effects
of surgical castration with regard to behavior have shown that most dogs continue exhibiting these behaviors. Aggression toward humans shows little significant effect after surgical castration. Surgery can have an effect in
some of these, but is far from absolute. The FDA has reviewed the data for both surgery and Neutersol and included wording in the prescribing information of Neutersol addressing this fact, "As with surgical castration, secondary male characteristics (roaming, marking, aggression and mounting) may persist."


Here are some research publications that conclude that early spay/neuter correlates with a high incidence of ACL damage and cancer.

Texas Tech University has PhD's that have published a study on ACL and spay/neuter correlation. This type of injury is one of the most painful to dogs....and of course cancer is deadly..



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[Liz ODell]

You can always get them collected and stored before you neuter...then if you change your mind for whatever reason (or just don't want an intact male period) you can still have pups out of him, it will just cost you a little money.
I'm still waiting for the day when egg storage in dogs becomes a viable option as well!

[rhromm]

I have used castrating bands on several dogs. Just remember that you should give them a shot of CDT before you band them because the bands create an anaerobic environment that is conducive to tetanus and can create lock jaw.

The band cuts off blood flow and within a week or two (two primarily) the testicles shrivel up and literally fall off. Most dogs feel almost no pain (don't even flinch), few appear to be agitated for about thirty minutes, but then loose feeling due to the nerve loosing circulation per say. When the testicles fall off best I remember the area is almost wound less. I have not noticed those dogs getting much if any heavier. They were already slim to start, and seemed to stay slim. I had a lab that bulked up, but my other hounds have stayed slim.

I believe in castration for dogs that are lesser in ability than those at stud. I would not castrate a dog at an early age, as it could lead to some regrets later in life. Once it is determined that a dog will not be bred too (1-2 years old) the responsible thing to do is castrate them.

I have not noticed any ill effects in my dogs that I castrated. They seemed a little less ill, and did not pay the females any attention.