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Re: Whis is harder to hunt?
Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:39 pm
by Rebel3
It takes one hell of a dog to catch bobcats consistently. Thery are a bitch too catch in the tag alder blowdown swamps in northern wisconsin. But if you happen to get them in some open popples are just a swamp with no blowdown it makes life a lot easier on the dogs. But like Brents pictures show, you know that cat is not touchin ground for a long time which makes it hell on the dog trying to put pressure on him. And that type of blowdown is where 80 percent of the bobcats are in.
Re: Whis is harder to hunt?
Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:46 pm
by Lost River
Brent Sinclair wrote:HUNT or Catch?????
There is a huge difference.
I have been fortuniate that I have had the chance to hunt several of the cats with hounds from South American to Africa...and have seen things that for sure will make you wear a bald spot on the top of your skull scratcnig it trying to figure them out.
Throw on a set of snowshoes and hit the rugged canyon country where game calls winter range and do a lion hunt on foot.
Saddle a good mule and work the rimrock,bluffs and canyons with miles of ledge that you or the hounds can not get off.
Get into a Land Cruiser in Zimbabwe with roads ,radios and several trackers to handle the hounds...
What is harder to hunt ?
I do know if your in the right place at the right time the hunt can be over with a cat treed before you get your gloves on...
I have seen leopard tree less than 5 minutes from the time the first hound is put on the track, and not off a bait.
The same goes for cougar,lynx,caracal and the other cats as well.
The first time I saw the Garmin GPS unit on hounds we did a lynx hunt in BC with some guys AND hounds that can flat out catch lynx.
When the cat was finaly "TREED" it had made a total of 35 km in the 5 hour chase and never went outside of a 1000 yard block of timber...it was a very easy hunt but a tough cat to get treed.
The GPS showed the data or I would have thought someone was getting a little wreckless with the facts..that cat was a runner and did not want to tree.
I have had lynx go up in less than 10 minutes...and I do not have hounds that I feel can catch a lynx!!!!!
Each animal is an individual and in my opinion there is no real way to say one is harder than the other...conditions, weather, terrain, equipment, hound experience and that of the one running the hounds... the list goes on... they all play a big roll.
Off topic, but it looks like you boys are fond of Swanndri wool? Happy hunting, Casey
Re: Whis is harder to hunt?
Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 11:00 pm
by Brianshounds
you can take a old fat dog or a puppie out and catch most lions in snow country, i catch most of my lions with dogs that are under two years old... it takes a smart dog to catch bobcats, I dont run many because i dont like the smaller game and my dogs just arnt tuned in to hunting them. i think it takes a very athletic dog to catch bears.. and they have to know how to catch bears.. a lot of dogs will run bear, lions , and bobcats but it takes a hell of a dog or dogs to catch a high percentage of any of the three.. just my two cents...
Re: Whis is harder to hunt?
Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 8:42 pm
by Brent Sinclair
Brianshounds wrote:you can take a old fat dog or a puppie out and catch most lions in snow country, i catch most of my lions with dogs that are under two years old... it takes a smart dog to catch bobcats, I dont run many because i dont like the smaller game and my dogs just arnt tuned in to hunting them. i think it takes a very athletic dog to catch bears.. and they have to know how to catch bears.. a lot of dogs will run bear, lions , and bobcats but it takes a hell of a dog or dogs to catch a high percentage of any of the three.. just my two cents...
Brian
I agree to a point, but throw a bit of weather conditions into a hunt in snow country like -20F and some wind and that ol fart dog and that pup will get their butt handed to them real fast along with some of the better hounds in your kennel.....seen it happen on more than one occation.
A stinky ol bear right out of the den will sit on his exhaust pipe and stay bayed up even for a cow dog on occation , seen that happen as well.
Weather conditions and the animal itself play way more into the equation than many of us realize at times.
I jumped a lion off a kill one morning, it was -20F with a fresh snow...went and got the hounds, the wind came up to about 15 - 20 mph and I had the hounds on the track in about an hour...after we got the hounds gathered some 5 hrs later the guy still had his tag in his pocket!!!
...I think every game animal we hunt with hounds is tough , just some hunts are easier than others.