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Re: Silent when cold trailing - desirable or not?

Posted: Tue Apr 30, 2013 11:48 pm
by mondomuttruner
I've been hearing the term "babble mouth dog" a lot. What does the west coast define babble mouth as? To me, a babble mouth dog is a dog that barks while running around looking for the track or barking "harking" to another dog among others. I myself prefer to hear the coldtrack which many times lead on for miles but not with a "babble mouth dog" as per my definition.

Re: Silent when cold trailing - desirable or not?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 12:30 am
by al baldwin
mondomuttruner wrote:I've been hearing the term "babble mouth dog" a lot. What does the west coast define babble mouth as? To me, a babble mouth dog is a dog that barks while running around looking for the track or barking "harking" to another dog among others. I myself prefer to hear the coldtrack which many times lead on for miles but not with a "babble mouth dog" as per my definition.

For myself, sure prefer a hound that gives enough mouth to tell where they are headed with the Track. No matter how cold the track I like them to open when they first find the scent. In a perfect world then shut up until they sort out the correct direction they want to move the track. From that point on at least open often enough so one does not need the garmin to follow the hounds. Most hounds that are open enough to operate in that matter, in my experience, will usually open more than needed in the beginning. I can accept that if they then settle down and bark according to the track. I sure have had at least one hound in the different packs over time that operated similar to what Perk described and yes that helps jump game that has become dog wise. I just don/t enjoy hunting dogs that are so tight mouth the garmin is needed to follow them. For sure, each hunter needs to hunt what pleases them. In my experience over the years those educated cats seem to elude the tight mouth dogs dang near as well as they do the ones who use their mouth according to the track. And even the hounds I felt barked more than needed at times, seem to bark very little on those sneaking cats. For sure I admire that wise old hound that has learned to tighten his mouth and run to catch an educated critter. I have hunted with a hunter who most would think those hounds bark so much they could never catch a dog wise critter. But I can sure tell you they have, & what a sound to enjoy. Now hunt what you enjoy. Realize, have not answered Mundo/s question, leave that for others. Al

Re: Silent when cold trailing - desirable or not?

Posted: Wed May 01, 2013 1:40 am
by timintx
For me just starting I like them to bark a little because I have a pup that will hunt deer but he knows its wrong and will not bark wile hunting them once I can tell for sure he's not hunting a cat my old dog don't bark I can call him off and roll on I know I may need silent hounds to catch cats but its hard for me to reed the dogs right now without them barking a little