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Mike

Mike this one of the times I agree with most of what you said. Thanks for your post. I will get the numbers of take on bobcat for hunters and trappers and try to get them posted. I plan to talk to the trappers to see where they are at and find out what the ODFW plan. The trappers carrier the pull for regulation without them we will go no where. They agreed to support a longer training season at the last furbearer meeting two years ago. We need to see where they are at now? I put more miles on then most and know many trappers as well as a few hound men that will talk to me. What I see and hear is that the southeastern part of Oregon is getting hit hard. The western and central is not. I like anyone would love to drive out my door and hunt cats. I have to drive an hour to get to ground that is not locked up. I try to hunt where no one else does or traps. I have not seen a trap in the woods for years and only twice have ran into a hound man. I hunt roadless areas and end up on hikes into wilderness each year, sometimes not getting out until way after dark. At the same time I have seen several of the bobcats that I have treed from standing on a gravel road. I did not tree as many bobcats as I normally do but seen more sign than normally. I did not hunt as much as usually do but more in Oregon because of the lost of hunting rights in California. If you are not finding bobcats I feel it is not do the lack of cats it is do to where you hunt, how you hunt and with what. There are several hunters that took more bobcats than I did this year. How can that be if the population is down? The weather was a factor this year. I hunted less and caught more bobs in Oregon. I had 2's,3's and even a 4 cat day in 7 hours of hunting. It is hard for me to believe bobcat numbers are down with several people taking good numbers year after year. Remember we stand together or we fail. Feel free to call and have a two way conversation about populations. I will post what I learn about the trappers think. Thomas When snow is on I will pass up those females with young traveling along side. Toms are far easy to start and trail on bare ground A lot of hound men catch more of them than females because they can. In eastern Oregon go out on bare ground you will have it to yourself. Dewey 541-942-4376

dwalton wrote:. I try to hunt where no one else does or traps. I have not seen a trap in the woods for years and only twice have ran into a hound man. 541-942-4376

Good post Dewey, but could not help it. That is the best way to catch cats fast that have not had the heck dogged out of them. But am envious, wish I was able to do the same. Good luck at the sale, know how much effort it takes. Al

Al: I hunt during training season where others hunt and have bobcats educated. It makes for a better race. I only had one bobcat that I did not tree or caught on the ground that the dogs jumped. They lost it in a road. It was in an area that is hunted hard with few cats killed. JC as far as caught on the ground, I count it when I pick it up I don't leave any in the woods. My dogs will stay with a dead cat. Dewey

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This need to go one the private side asap!

Mike

From what i've seen the cat population is down,at least in my area but i'm willing to go with what the majority think.I know we need to be as united as possible .I'm very interested in this and last years harvest numbers.

I would agree with Mike and Mark on another post that somethings shouldn't be discussed in a open forum.Some opinions given are just that "opinions" and some are facts . I stand behind everything i've said on here so if you care to know my reasons give me a call. Robin Powell---541-315-1937. Thanks and have a great day!

1bludawg wrote:I would agree with Mike and Mark on another post that somethings shouldn't be discussed in a open forum.Some opinions given are just that "opinions" and some are facts . I stand behind everything i've said on here so if you care to know my reasons give me a call. Robin Powell---541-315-1937. Thanks and have a great day!

Robin

You are absolutely correct! For this reason? I have deleted post on both threads! I too stand behind my comments, feel free to pm me or call anytime....

Thanks

Mike Martell
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I just think our opinions and ideas come across different on here than they would in a live discussion. I could care less what the antis read anymore, they have their mind made up anyways. I think now is the time for everybody with a concern to sit down and come up with a plan using all the information available to us. GET INVOLVED !!!!

I take offence to some of the opinions on this post. I know alot of you who are doing the pissing and moaning. Actually helped some of you get your blood lines statrted. I also know that it never hurt your feelings to go to somebody elses hunting spot and harvest a animal. Ive only been harvesting them for the last three years. leagally during kill season. I don't brag and b.s about what I got for dogs. I believe if you know what you have for dogs, you will always own something that can catch game. There maybe some slow times but everybody goes through them. Bobcats sometimes don't move for day's. Some times you have to cover alot of country to find one moving. Other times though rare they all move. During those times there around every corner. This year they seemed to move best at night. Other times not at all. As far as I know I buy a hunting liscense from my state. Not from somebody that does'nt like to see me in there so called spot. I've never bitched about others hunting ,trapping and harvesting in the areas I mainly hunt, and not in the many many years I chose not to harvest them. I will abide by the law. But if I choose to take something during kill season I will. I support what the majority does. I like marks idea if prices are high it would be worth the money, as well as a money maker for the state.

Don/t think any of this discussion will change anything. Never thought 10 cat limit had a chance, just a place to start discussion. Yes, there are still cat here, however if a few came here and took 90 cat in a season, would really put a hurt on the cat population. With a endless # on the amount each hunter can harvest, just seems might be time to take a look at that. Everyone has a right to harvest as many as they desire, with license & report cards. Mark idea would create a little revenue, but not a sufficient amount, according to reports I have heard. Recall when a season & report system was put in I thought why do we need that, resented it. Putting a # on the total each hunter & trapper can harvest in western Oregon now makes sense to me, never thought I would say that 40 years ago. Of coarse will go with the majority, what other chose does one have? Al

Al, the idea to charge more money for the 3+ cards wasn't to generate money it was to make people consider if they really needed to kill more cats.

Well I didn't mean to upset u buddy. You are not the only cat hunter who hunts up here. We share the same frustrations. Wasn't meant to offend anyone

It's not about how many cat anyone hunter takes .There will always be hunters who catch more than the next guy .The question is can the cat population handle the increased hunting pressure.It looks like most of you believe it can.

Robin

Look at the geographical part of the State the majority seem to think harvesting can be sustained at the same level of hunting and those opinions are concurrent with ODFW stats....I asked Corvallis biologist about the jaw requirement and was told 100% of those jaws are aged to make sure the allocated take never gets out of control, the same biologist said some factors contribute to them getting behind like during high market demand years and it takes time to catch up, but overall the system is working well....The stats show a concern in areas of Central and Eastern Oregon where catching cats is easier where hounds have the open areas and traps cover the rock piles than on the west side in the brush thickets. Our internal jealousy will only serve as a detriment to our overall cause. Another contributing factor? ODFW will go with the trappers association prior to any hound hunters analogy, We carry very little clout with the ODFW....Moral of this story? It only serves to further divide all of us....Lets kick back and enjoy the ride and change the subject! We have some close knit guys on here getting uptight and this is a bad deal....Life is too short for the bickering!
Mike