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curtj wrote:Good morning mmm, A few years ago I had the pleasure of hunting with mikes playboy and ready dog's. I hunt only bobcats on the west coast where there is tons of gravel roads and salal, salmon berry, and blackberrys so thick that sometimes a person has to chop his way into the dogs when they have a cat caught or treed. I have to tell you I was impressed with what i saw. These two dogs were bear dogs from idaho that had not been on more cats than most dogs ever see in a lifetime, like the ones that i had at the time. If we were running a cat and the dogs made a loose, if either playboy or ready barked the other dogs better had hurry up and get to them or else they were either going to get thrown out of the race or get behind. What I saw out of them they were honest tree dogs, good locators, pretty good nosed for being bear dogs all there lives, and toward the end of a couple months were a times out striking mine on the rig. What i also liked about them they were thick haired, could handle being hunted in the rain for hours and days on end without wanting to get behind the cab or lay down on the box because they were cold. And by the way Ive never hunted with mike, but I do know he is a dog trainer like myself. If you have young dogs, a person only makes dogs out of them by maximum exposure. This means getting them on the most game you possibly can by hunting them all the time. For the fellas that might try to knock his dogs, just remember talks cheap, you better be ready to put up or shutup if you turn loose with some his stuff from what ive seen they dont want trail game they want to catch it.

BlacktailStalker wrote:Dan I'm not talkin about what he was sayin I'm talkin about what "fast" meant because "fast" was mentioned. Prob shoulda started a new thread I guess.
Could care less about the dogs, my comments about them were not disrespectful, just observations in reply to the question asked about them based on what I saw on the 2 dvds.

I'm just curious what "fast" is because I thought I had fast dogs til my buddy put his jeep in 4 low, let it "walk" and it passed them like they were standing still...
Wait a minute, they were standing still because I was waiting for them to empty out. Bad example.

Anyways, Yaak cleared it up for me and this week I'm workin' on teaching them to scout out big trees with big limbs while running a jumped bear, before they tree it.

I think he's on to something here.

So maybe we should discuss check dogs now.
I think a real "check" dog is one that runs past the main pack and the quarry, scouts (checks) out an ideal tree, say, 1-5 kms ahead of the race, which the distance is determined by the mood the check dog feels the quarry is in which justifies when it will tree, run back and then lead the quarry and the rest of the pack to that said tree.