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Yeah, those two never did any justice to the sport that's for sure. I live in Alberta and was living here at the time that happened. It took less than a week from the time that hit the air to the time we were shut down on coyote hunting with hounds. But with that being said it did'nt take long for that to become a grey area. There is nothing in our regs. about it and if I'm not mistaken no one has ever been charged for it directly. There were a couple of charges given out to a few guys I know but the charges were running dogs on private land without written permission and trespassing. Pretty cut and dry I think. This is why I believe hunters have the moral obligation to keep game engaged video and pictures off the internet. It does us no good in the long run. We as hunters know what happens at the front of a den, at the base of a tree or end of a chase. So why show it if we know? It is nice to share stories and expeirences with others and connect with fellow hunters everywhere but we make ourselves targets the momment we display video of our hunts. Last year I was torn apart on an open forum for making this very same comment when someone posted a picture of his two hounds tearing a live coon apart. The pictures were a frame by frame show of it. It showed me the general mentallity of the hunters we deal with today. Let's face it, the times of our fathers and grandfathers is gone. Thier ways have become outdated and new ways took over. These new ways put us at risk every day and if we don't start with cleaning up ourselves we'll never stand up to the antis. There is hundreds of great houndsmen out there but it only takes one bad one and a video camera to make us all fall together. I honestly don't know how I would handle it if I could not hunt with dogs anymore. This has been a way of life for me and past generations in my family and now for my son who owns his own hounds. I would forfit all other hunting if I could just run my hounds year round. It's not a hobby but a way of life and a passion. You can't beat that out of a person once they have expeirenced it. It becomes the bain of your exsistence and that's all you think of. Well atleast me anyways, lol.

You guys are exactly right about the pictures. It does do any good at all to show dogs killing game. I dont even like it when hunters drive around with their killed game in view of the public. All that does is give fuel to the anti's. What I would like to see is pictures of your terriers. I enjoiy seeing the dogs. Give us the full story on the Canadian deal. What was shown on tv. It would be a good lesson for us US hunters.

BLUE : " I would forfit all other hunting if I could run my hounds year round " Blue that statement alone is what the ANTI- BASTARDS want . DIVIDE and CONQUER . Don't give them what they want . Look around at other states and Provinces to see already what they have done . If you were the only Hound hunter left when all is said and done ,surer than Crapola they would be coming after you next

bob baldwin jr wrote:BLUE : " I would forfit all other hunting if I could run my hounds year round " Blue that statement alone is what the ANTI- BASTARDS want . DIVIDE and CONQUER . Don't give them what they want . Look around at other states and Provinces to see already what they have done . If you were the only Hound hunter left when all is said and done ,surer than Crapola they would be coming after you next

I think you misunderstood the meaning of my post, but no problem. I am an avid bowhunter and fisherman also. But my passion and what I enjoy the most is running my dogs. I don't wish for all other hunting to stop. Just for myself I enjoy nothing more than running my hounds. That's what drives me. This gives the antis nothing more than going against someone who will fight tooth and nail to keep thier passion alive. Hell all they have to do is read any of the forums and see all the b.s. argueing to divide and conquer. It's here too. I'm just more avid about protecting the rights of houndsmen for it is at a very vunreable state right now and the easiest to target. But I also fight for hunting as a whole.

BEAR HUNTER wrote:You guys are exactly right about the pictures. It does do any good at all to show dogs killing game. I dont even like it when hunters drive around with their killed game in view of the public. All that does is give fuel to the anti's. What I would like to see is pictures of your terriers. I enjoiy seeing the dogs. Give us the full story on the Canadian deal. What was shown on tv. It would be a good lesson for us US hunters.

What happend around 7 years ago was a couple North of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada took a news crew out on a coyote hunt with thier greyhounds. If this was'nt bad enough thier dogs were completely hopeless and tortured this critter on video. The first time the engaded the coyote there was 3 dogs on in. They pulled off the dogs only to have the coyote stagger away. They let the dogs on it again and when they pulled it down the guy's wife was wacking it on the head with a hammer. As dumb and barbaric as this was, to make it worse durring the editing of the ordeal the news crew dubbed in sounds of crying, growling and all other fowl noises I've never heard coyote hunting. Any one knows with good dogs this would've been a five second ordeal but the made this last for five minutes. And all on the six o'clock news for everyone to see. This is what shut down the coyote hunting with hounds in Alberta. Worst part was there was'nt a good throat dog in the bunch. They all just pulled hair and mauled. Who hunts like that? So this is why a pile of us ended up selling our stagghounds and had to get out of it.

Blue: My apologies to you personally if I misunderstood your point of view. I too enjoy our hounds . Have been tormented by the Anti's and Peta in the past . Maybe I am stretching the point , BUT sometimes I feel that I give more attention to our hounds than some of these Anti's give to their own kids . I guess that just shows how Passionate we lean towards our hounds. I have been lucky enough to have hunted with hounds in about 10 states and in Ontario and BC . Of all the hound outfitters I have hunted with I have come away with the feeling that these outfitters had the same passion that most all hound hunters share. Here in Maine a few years ago we almost lost our Bear hunting to the Anti's so a constant vigil is required to stay 1 step in front of them. We all must keep up the good fight.

I agree with you there. We have been so close to getting new seasons here but at the same time could'nt be further away from it. It's frustrating leaving the house doing something you love and have these people try to make us feel guilty for it. But all we can do is keep our head up high and never be ashamed of ourselves. I never will be, I love my hounds and my hunting and will always do it.

[quote][/quote]What happend around 7 years ago was a couple North of Edmonton, Alberta, Canada took a news crew out on a coyote hunt with thier greyhounds. If this was'nt bad enough thier dogs were completely hopeless and tortured this critter on video. The first time the engaded the coyote there was 3 dogs on in. They pulled off the dogs only to have the coyote stagger away. They let the dogs on it again and when they pulled it down the guy's wife was wacking it on the head with a hammer. As dumb and barbaric as this was, to make it worse durring the editing of the ordeal the news crew dubbed in sounds of crying, growling and all other fowl noises I've never heard coyote hunting. Any one knows with good dogs this would've been a five second ordeal but the made this last for five minutes. And all on the six o'clock news for everyone to see. This is what shut down the coyote hunting with hounds in Alberta. Worst part was there was'nt a good throat dog in the bunch. They all just pulled hair and mauled. Who hunts like that? So this is why a pile of us ended up selling our stagghounds

WOW!

that video was made by the local news station it was put on to show how they where dealing with the coyotes on some of the local farms , i do think that the couple stupidly believed how much they where helping hunters and farmers by showing how they did it, when the dogs took down the coyote it was the wife that hit the cotote on the head with the hammer the first time and then in the next shot on the video the guy was talking on camera with the coyote in the background and when they where asking him about the hunt the coyote comes round and starts to move away the guy laughs and sends his dogs in again and then he hits it on the head with the hammer again to kill it ,this was all put out on the main news in the evening and not surprisingly there was an outcry from the public as well as hunters to what they had seen ,this video could not have been better staged by one of the anti groups ,when the province first put a total ban on hunting with dogs on they even stoped (sorry don't know the name off) the white dogs that live and protect sheep from coyotes being used , just after all of this had happened there was some fool that started leaving the bodies of coyotes on the side of highways around edmonton that did not help any, i know i was phoning all over trying to put out that this was not how hunters hunted and no one was interested after seeing the video , after being back in the UK many hunters here have seen lots of videos that are staged and put out by the antis to try to convince the public that it was us that was doing some bararic act to game and it is somethink everybody should look out for ,most hunters i have meet do more to help the game and the environment that they live in than any anti group

WOW That's unbelievable.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, hunting is not a spectator sport.