Cody & Herbie
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:16 am
This is a coonhound story, but it is a good one. You guys are houndsmen and I think you will enjoy it. I need to get it written down, my memory isn’t what it used to be. It’s a long story, it’ll take me a while to get it all down. The hardest part is deciding where to start. Every time I think of a good starting point I think of a hundred stories that led up to that point. I guess I’ll go with when Doug Simmons talked Pete LaDue into breeding his good treeing walker female, Gr. Nt. Ch. Credit River Cody to Rock River Sackett Jr. Cody was an outstanding female from a long line of hounds bred by the LaDues and others. She was heavy in House’s Clint blood and also had a good shot of Pete’s old dog Sonny Boy. Cody was fresh off of winning a pile of money in one of the first money hunts UKC ever had.
Frank Giddings from Michigan owned Sackett Jr. Frank is kind of a legend in the coonhound world. He is about the hardest hunter there is or ever was. If it was dark, Frank was hunting. Every night, all night long, all year long. Probably still is. His dog Jr. was a legend in his own right. With very little advertising, he turned into the top producing stud dog the walker breed has ever known. But that is a whole story in itself.
Now, Pete tells about the day he and Doug drove to Michigan to breed Cody. They stopped to call Giddings when they were getting close. When Pete said they were almost there Frank said “What! You weren’t supposed to be here until tomorrow!” Pete said “I know when my dog is ready to breed and she is ready right now!” Pete still gets mad when he tells that part. You need to understand, Pete is an old houndsman and set in his ways. He doesn’t take kindly to being told what to do!
When they pulled in the yard some coonhunters from Kentucky were there with a female that wasn’t ready to breed yet. They fooled around for a long time trying to get the Kentucky dog bred while Pete waited. That didn’t improve Pete’s mood any. They finally got around to breeding Cody. It went quick and easy and produced a good litter from one tie.
Pete and Doug stayed and hunted with Frank’s dogs that night. Pete said Sackett Jr. was one of the best coon dogs he had seen. They hunted down a river out of a boat and Jr. treed coon one after another and just made it look easy. Before they loaded the hounds in the boat, Frank had gotten out a young dog, pointed him to the woods and cut him loose. When they got back with the boat several hours later the young dog was treeing hard a half mile from the truck and had a coon.
Most stud dogs, when they start earning the kind of money that Sackett Jr. was, get locked up in a kennel and never turned loose again. But that isn’t how Frank Giddings operates, he is a houndsman first and Jr. got hunted every night until he was killed by a car at a young age, not too long after this breeding took place.
This litter produced a lot of good dogs. Pete kept two males, Bronco and Herbie. When they were pups Herbie barked himself out and his voice never came back. It was just as loud as ever, but he ended up with a real deep, funny sounding bawl, almost like a loud bull frog or something.
Pete hunted Bronco on bear his whole life, one of the few dogs that died of old age at Pete’s house. He sold Herbie to Richard Turchin as a young dog. Richard trained Herbie in the hardwood covered hills and tamarack swamps around his farm. It was a tough place to tree coon, a hound has to work for everything he gets in that country.
Lisa and I used to go and hunt with Richard some at “The Ponderosa”, Richard’s hunting shack back in the woods on his farm. Herbie would go hunting hard when you cut him loose. He could take an old, rough track and move it out fast. Every time he opened he was closer to the coon, before you knew it he was treed way back in there. Richard would always drive us as close to the tree as we could get so we didn’t have to cross the big swamps the dogs went through.
I remember one hunt when Richard had lots of company. He took us back in and we turned about six dogs loose. Richard had us cut them right into a big cat tail swamp. I always try to avoid them cat tails, a coon can stay ahead of most dogs all night long in that stuff. The hounds hit a track and had a rough time in all that water and mud. About then I heard Herbie pull away from the other dogs and just leave out of there fast heading west, out of hearing. We drove over to the next road just in time to hear Herbie fall treed a mile from where we started and 15 minutes ahead of the next dog.
It was on one of these hunts that our son, Cody started talking about “that dog”. Lisa and I just looked at each other with a shocked look on our face. Cody was born with severe hearing loss. Now, my wife Lisa hunted just as much as me back then. She grew up hunting with her dad and wasn’t about to stay home while I was out hunting all night, so our kids had spent a big share of there childhood in the woods with hounds. I used to think Cody spent more time sleeping in the truck out in the woods than in his bed.
Cody can hear low pitched sounds, but he can’t hear higher pitched sounds. He could always hear the hounds, but he could never tell them apart. It was just noise to him. So when he started talking about Herbie while there was a bunch of hounds out there we couldn’t believe it. I think Cody could hear Herbie’s odd voice while he couldn’t hear much of the other dogs. It must have been just the right tone. Cody was only about 9 years old then.
Frank Giddings from Michigan owned Sackett Jr. Frank is kind of a legend in the coonhound world. He is about the hardest hunter there is or ever was. If it was dark, Frank was hunting. Every night, all night long, all year long. Probably still is. His dog Jr. was a legend in his own right. With very little advertising, he turned into the top producing stud dog the walker breed has ever known. But that is a whole story in itself.
Now, Pete tells about the day he and Doug drove to Michigan to breed Cody. They stopped to call Giddings when they were getting close. When Pete said they were almost there Frank said “What! You weren’t supposed to be here until tomorrow!” Pete said “I know when my dog is ready to breed and she is ready right now!” Pete still gets mad when he tells that part. You need to understand, Pete is an old houndsman and set in his ways. He doesn’t take kindly to being told what to do!
When they pulled in the yard some coonhunters from Kentucky were there with a female that wasn’t ready to breed yet. They fooled around for a long time trying to get the Kentucky dog bred while Pete waited. That didn’t improve Pete’s mood any. They finally got around to breeding Cody. It went quick and easy and produced a good litter from one tie.
Pete and Doug stayed and hunted with Frank’s dogs that night. Pete said Sackett Jr. was one of the best coon dogs he had seen. They hunted down a river out of a boat and Jr. treed coon one after another and just made it look easy. Before they loaded the hounds in the boat, Frank had gotten out a young dog, pointed him to the woods and cut him loose. When they got back with the boat several hours later the young dog was treeing hard a half mile from the truck and had a coon.
Most stud dogs, when they start earning the kind of money that Sackett Jr. was, get locked up in a kennel and never turned loose again. But that isn’t how Frank Giddings operates, he is a houndsman first and Jr. got hunted every night until he was killed by a car at a young age, not too long after this breeding took place.
This litter produced a lot of good dogs. Pete kept two males, Bronco and Herbie. When they were pups Herbie barked himself out and his voice never came back. It was just as loud as ever, but he ended up with a real deep, funny sounding bawl, almost like a loud bull frog or something.
Pete hunted Bronco on bear his whole life, one of the few dogs that died of old age at Pete’s house. He sold Herbie to Richard Turchin as a young dog. Richard trained Herbie in the hardwood covered hills and tamarack swamps around his farm. It was a tough place to tree coon, a hound has to work for everything he gets in that country.
Lisa and I used to go and hunt with Richard some at “The Ponderosa”, Richard’s hunting shack back in the woods on his farm. Herbie would go hunting hard when you cut him loose. He could take an old, rough track and move it out fast. Every time he opened he was closer to the coon, before you knew it he was treed way back in there. Richard would always drive us as close to the tree as we could get so we didn’t have to cross the big swamps the dogs went through.
I remember one hunt when Richard had lots of company. He took us back in and we turned about six dogs loose. Richard had us cut them right into a big cat tail swamp. I always try to avoid them cat tails, a coon can stay ahead of most dogs all night long in that stuff. The hounds hit a track and had a rough time in all that water and mud. About then I heard Herbie pull away from the other dogs and just leave out of there fast heading west, out of hearing. We drove over to the next road just in time to hear Herbie fall treed a mile from where we started and 15 minutes ahead of the next dog.
It was on one of these hunts that our son, Cody started talking about “that dog”. Lisa and I just looked at each other with a shocked look on our face. Cody was born with severe hearing loss. Now, my wife Lisa hunted just as much as me back then. She grew up hunting with her dad and wasn’t about to stay home while I was out hunting all night, so our kids had spent a big share of there childhood in the woods with hounds. I used to think Cody spent more time sleeping in the truck out in the woods than in his bed.
Cody can hear low pitched sounds, but he can’t hear higher pitched sounds. He could always hear the hounds, but he could never tell them apart. It was just noise to him. So when he started talking about Herbie while there was a bunch of hounds out there we couldn’t believe it. I think Cody could hear Herbie’s odd voice while he couldn’t hear much of the other dogs. It must have been just the right tone. Cody was only about 9 years old then.