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Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:52 pm
by Hipshooter
My dogs bark in the box sometimes.
I thought they were just happy to be going hunting.
After hunting with John & Mr Clay & there rig dogs, I started taking riggining serious.
When they rig in the box now , I turn my old broke start dog loose to see if they
are lieing. They were lieing or track was to old to run.a couple of times, but have started one cat this way.
I probably had rig dogs & to dumb to know it.
Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:16 pm
by DerekE
Sometimes it seems the dogs are doing the training, doesn't it?

Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:39 pm
by Hipshooter
I am lucky to have a start dog that is straight & never lies
Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 12:25 am
by Rcher
I haven't been doing this long but it didnt take me very long to figure out my dog knows way more about cat hunting than I do!

Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:31 pm
by U.R.E.
Although I have gain a ton from the ol'timers around here, no one has taught me as much as my hounds. We just have to pay attention....
Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 7:31 pm
by liontracker
My coldest was always going off and I didn't know why. One time he went off and I was almost to my parking spot. I stopped and had a look, but nothing. When I got to the parking place, it just so happened that I collared him first, and let him out. Before I could get the rest collared, he struck up on the highwall about 800 feet above me. Along about 7 miles later there was a Tom lion in a tree!LOL Now then he is about as bent as they get, and since we have about 10 bobcat to every one lion, I suspect he was riggin' bobcats and I was driving right on by! He must have thought I was nuts. However I don't have to be told twice, so now I turn him out!LOL
Moral of the story...When in doubt trust your hound.
Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:02 am
by pete richardson
ive had a couple of pretty gifted rig dogs-- (not on cats but on bear )- just naturals , they started striking as pups from inside the box ahead of the old dog-- a few of them learned to strike bear almost before they ran a bear-
barely started---
my favorite one wasnt super cold nosed but would strike tracks a long ways from the road- i was lucky at the time that i had an older " bent dog "to check her with
old dog had to about double his range to find alot of the tracks she struck-
and that older dog started out doing the same to the dog before him--
-- its a miracle i didnt ruin all of them--
have to have some control over the mutts im hauling that arent trusted rig dogs -
actually dont know what a trusted rig dog is -- lol but bent is a good description of the better ones ive seen,
if he hasnt barked at any trash in years--- he is bent --
the hard part is
all my young dogs
think they are gifted rig dogs -

Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:50 pm
by Dads dogboy
Hipshooter,
Ain't Ole Andy NICE!
We rigged 8 different Cat this morning, put down on 5, have yet to get the first Bark on the ground! Found the tracks in the road on all but one, three had broken the sand after the dew, yet still NO barks!
What is wrong, sorry Hounds probably! Oh yea we did have and EAST wind around 3mph!
So far ths week we have caught two and treed three and all have been Races of over an hour!
Keep trying the Rig program and you will be pleased at how many Cat you will be finding!
CJC
PS Derek there is a PM awaiting you!
Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 1:49 am
by Ike
That's funny hipshooter but I was the same way, as those two redbones of mine were rigging lions in the box for a long time before I started putting them down or looking for the track. And Dads dogboy is correct on rigging, if you stay after it you'll find a hell of a lot more cats from listening to those dogs that you ever will on open ground...........
Best of luck,
ike
Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:30 pm
by Borderpond
Hipshooter wrote "I probably had rig dogs & to dumb to know it."
Havent heard that said much but have seen a ton of guys who DIDNT have rig dogs and were too dumb to know it
Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 10:49 pm
by dubl_t
hey real quick, what's a "bent dog"
Thanks, I'm starting to get the hang of this.
Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:49 am
by Dads dogboy
dubl_t,
We call it "Broke in Broke Company" meaning they won't trash unless something else starts it.
A big reason to be careful about hunting with others, and why most "Good" Bobcat Hunters in the South will not run their Hounds with some one elses. They will go and listen to another Hunters and enjoy the Dog work, but are not willing to risk undoing lots of hard work on some one elses boo boo!
Hope this answers your question!
CJC
Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:15 pm
by Cowboyvon
Dads dogboy wrote:dubl_t,
We call it "Broke in Broke Company" meaning they won't trash unless something else starts it
I like that... I've seen that look....."why you mad at me it was his idea"

Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2009 4:16 pm
by jeff
LMAO

Re: Rigging cats, How dumb can a person be.
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2009 10:27 am
by pete richardson
well bent is just a word
a bent dog is still alive--- still in training, -
bent is a real liveing dog , a broke dog is an imaginary perfect dog i havent seen yet -
-or maybe is for sale in the classified -
theres a lot of reasons a dog can strike off the truck and not take a track out-- one of them is, oops i opened my mouth on trash -
its a possibility -
i did have one old dog given to me that i dont think ever barked on trash when i owned him --i think hes the only one i could say that about - he was ancient when i got him--
have seen dogs that went years without trashing- , good ones , they were well bent ,
dogboy illustrates my point -he has straight dogs-- but is very careful not to put them with trash runners--
if they were broke ,would have nothing to worry about
theres another way of looking at it-
a trash race isnt such a disaster , just another training opportunity
