Why did the dogo topic in big game get deleted?
Posted: Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:34 am
the last i saw was rifleman,s post & to that point NO ONE had violated any of the rules in the forum Rules of Conduct.
at the time i last read it.
No one was using abusive or foul language
No one was making personal attacks
No one was advocating illegal activities
No one was posting pics of anything illegal (at least not where the pics were taken)
the most offensive thing i saw posted was the expressed fear of offending petaphiles. I've said it on many forums before (& maybe here too) but the ABSOLUTE WORST thing you can do is empower those A-holes by hiding what you do. open & frank discussion allows us to show what is true & common among dog hunters. being up front, unapologetic & in your face is how previously socially unacceptable activities have become acceptable & mainstream. being fearful of open discussion makes it look as though the petaphiles are right in calling what we do immoral. criminals like the mafia & pedophiles hide what they do because it is immoral & it is offensive.
i get the most flak about hunting w/ my dog from deer shooters & other sportsmen. when confronted w/ the biological soundness of my preferred methods and the benefits it provides to both dogs & wildlife, most "animal lovers" i've discussed the subject with, who oppose hunting as sport, support dog hunting over any other. when i explain the value of training pens (especially for hogs) and how they are normally operated, the same anti hunting animal lovers agree that preparing the dogs for the dangers of hunting before actually facing the dangers and thus INCREASING their safety is the right thing to do. OTH the most venomous insults i've ever heard during a discussion on the subject have been from other dog hunters who have actually said it's better to have a few more dogs get killed than to start them in a pen because "the Antis will use it against us." i got news for all of y'all, THEY DON"T CARE WHAT YOU DO. if you don't do anything, THEY WILL MAKE STUFF UP ANYWAY. it's how they got dogfighting banned. the truth wasn't shocking enough so, THEY MADE UP A TON OF LIES. the media ate it up because it sold papers, magazines & got tv & radio ratings. it was a cash cow for the media. and the funny part is people who should know better (like guys who post on this site) took the media's word as gospel.
i am just too damn old to worry about who gets offended by what i do or say, especially if they are gunning for me whether i say anything offending their sensibilities or not. censoring the frank discussion of LEGAL activities is not just unamerican, it's cowardly, weak & should offend anyone who even remotely has any sense of manhood.
rant over.
at the time i last read it.
No one was using abusive or foul language
No one was making personal attacks
No one was advocating illegal activities
No one was posting pics of anything illegal (at least not where the pics were taken)
the most offensive thing i saw posted was the expressed fear of offending petaphiles. I've said it on many forums before (& maybe here too) but the ABSOLUTE WORST thing you can do is empower those A-holes by hiding what you do. open & frank discussion allows us to show what is true & common among dog hunters. being up front, unapologetic & in your face is how previously socially unacceptable activities have become acceptable & mainstream. being fearful of open discussion makes it look as though the petaphiles are right in calling what we do immoral. criminals like the mafia & pedophiles hide what they do because it is immoral & it is offensive.
i get the most flak about hunting w/ my dog from deer shooters & other sportsmen. when confronted w/ the biological soundness of my preferred methods and the benefits it provides to both dogs & wildlife, most "animal lovers" i've discussed the subject with, who oppose hunting as sport, support dog hunting over any other. when i explain the value of training pens (especially for hogs) and how they are normally operated, the same anti hunting animal lovers agree that preparing the dogs for the dangers of hunting before actually facing the dangers and thus INCREASING their safety is the right thing to do. OTH the most venomous insults i've ever heard during a discussion on the subject have been from other dog hunters who have actually said it's better to have a few more dogs get killed than to start them in a pen because "the Antis will use it against us." i got news for all of y'all, THEY DON"T CARE WHAT YOU DO. if you don't do anything, THEY WILL MAKE STUFF UP ANYWAY. it's how they got dogfighting banned. the truth wasn't shocking enough so, THEY MADE UP A TON OF LIES. the media ate it up because it sold papers, magazines & got tv & radio ratings. it was a cash cow for the media. and the funny part is people who should know better (like guys who post on this site) took the media's word as gospel.
i am just too damn old to worry about who gets offended by what i do or say, especially if they are gunning for me whether i say anything offending their sensibilities or not. censoring the frank discussion of LEGAL activities is not just unamerican, it's cowardly, weak & should offend anyone who even remotely has any sense of manhood.
rant over.
