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what is the deal with it why are ppl doin it to the young hounds. i been looking for a pup but every thing has its nutz loped off. if i had my nutz loped off i would not do shit the dogs are prob the same.......... whats the deal wit it fill me in?

Hunt drive and sex drive are two separate drives. Taking away there sex drive doesnt hurt their hunting at all. If anything it makes them better.

I have 5 males and 3 are cut........Don't plan on breeding those males, so no use for their nuts.

And I'll be damned if 2 of the 3 cut males will still tie up with a female in heat.... at least their shooting blanks.

I hate the fact that more people won't cut the nuts off the males they are not planning on breeding.. Not all dogs are stud material (I personally think most aren't) and the ones that aren't, don't need their nuts..

I have 2 males.. One is cut.. I like him a hell of a lot better now that he is cut... Before he just wanted to sniff girls.. Now his nuts are gone.. Oh yeah.. hell of a hunting dog..

I know a couple people I won't hunt with because of their males.. Cut them and I bet half their issues would go away...

Just another viewpoint. Why would you keep and hunt one that wasn't fit to breed? I might have one that would, I think, produce better than another, but I think I would be satisfied with pups out of any of my Males (3). Maybe Im too easy pleased, but I hunt alone and am the only one who has to be pleased. This is just my opinion. Lets all be thankful for the freedom we have to disagree and to openly discuss our own opinions. Im forever grateful to those who have lived and died defending these rights.

Hey, I forgot something( I think that comes with age) A feller told me, once, Ball bearings make them run smoother and faster.

floridacathunter, One I have is not fit to breed because he has Hip Dysplasia.......just cause he is not fit to breed doesn't mean he's not still worthy of hunting.

All the others I had cut because I had no plans on breeding them - Not because their not fit for breeding. One of the one's cut sire a litter in 2007.

Hell, after my 3rd son this past summer, I do not plan to sire another one and gonna get cut myself as well.

I'm picky picky about what I breed..

I have dynamite little female that I will NEVER breed.. Other's would I'm sure.. She has TERRIBLE conformation.. I don't like it.. I won't breed it into my dogs.. She catches game and does it well so why would I get rid of her?

Same with my cut male.. I own his daddy.. I don't need the pup to have nuts.. I enjoy the heck out of hunting him.. He is easy and a pleasure.. He was a lot more annoying with nuts.. Some dogs can handle it.. My old (he's 7) male I can (and have) hunt with in heat females until they are ready to be bred.. He's not driven by them.. so he kept them...

If a dog is doing it's job and doing it well, it earns it's feed here.. Not all dogs need to be bred and I'm not going to breed all my dogs.. But I will hunt them...

Heck.. I have a 6 year old female that is a TOP notch cat dog.. She has raised 22 pups for me.. I want to get her fixed.. Me and the co-owner are butting heads on it.. She's raised all the pups I think she needs to.. Why not get her fixed and be over it all?

Not all dogs can reproduce.. Get them fixed.. Not all dogs have what it takes to be breeding material.. I think we would be ahead in the hound world if more people thought that way.. Of course that is my opinion..

Melanie you just made me stand up and say AMEN! and im not even really religious! I would love to see more dogs cut and hunted, then left intact and put on a pedalstel in the kennel because of his family tree! I understand about keepin the history on a line of dogs but i see more dogs make it because of hunting them than their family tree! And getting them cut can be the difference of a great dog and one that just wants to mess around especially when they are between 1-3 years old! they have the wrong attention span just like teenagers!lol

Male dogs are like a lot of people--they're pigs. Cutting them can change a lot of undesireabke behavior. Everyone has different tolerances and what bothers me may not bother someone else. I got rid of a dandy female once because she refused to stop eating her own crap. Just couldn't tolerate her any more. It didn't bother the guy that bought her. I have cut males to save their lives too. They were too agressive toward other dogs and sometimes people. It completely changed their disposition and the way they saw life in general. I would love to have some of those old genetics, but I would have killed the dogs if I hadn't cut them. I have always believed that there would be a lot more good gelding horses and a lot fewer mediocre studs if people would invest in a sharp knife. In my mind the same applies to dogs as well. Also, as many top quality lines of dogs as there are out there, why over populate the world with mediocre to sorry dogs? Just be willing to invest your money into someone elses hard work and trials. That is usually the cheapest way to go anyway!

here's a thought on this. if a hound has to be cut in order to be huntable with other males or to get out and hunt period. should that hounds family continue to be bred? isn't aggression considered a fault ? I look at it like this, dominance is more prominent in males then females as a rule so if you cut the males in the litter there is a good chance you won't be aware of the aggression that could and will be passed on by the female litter mates. if a hound is game driven enough to overcome those other desires that hound is probably working hard enough to impress about anyone so why not breed for this and breed to do away with the bs. if bull breeds can have game desire bred into them in away as to overcome their tendency towards dog aggression surely we can do it with our hounds. did the large packs of the fox/deer hunters have a problem with dog aggression for long? nope. cutting it out just mask it at worst and at best slows down it's removal remember that bitch has a fifty % say so too.

Hey, I value everyones out look. I agree that we shouldnt breed hounds that have genetic physical problems. If a hound has a behavior or performance trait that I cant correct through training or correction, and I cant tolerate. they are usually removed from our pack. I agree with the "good studs make better geldings" theory,somewhat, but commercialism and greed cause a lot of mediocre matings in horses and hounds. The "Pedestal"or cause my daddy was ole so and so, studs that are unproven, are examples of this greed. Over the years I have learned a few things that work for me. I don't sell hounds. I keep them for my own personal pleasure only. If I have a hound that doesnt suit me, I do not give them away, I eliminate them. I no longer give extra pups away. I have made these mistakes in the past. I think selling or giving away your culls or unproven pups,does more to propagate poor quality hounds than any thing else. I have 3 male hounds . I have young hounds off of one of them. I may never breed him or his littermate brother again, but I sure am glad I have that option, if I change my mind. Just my thoughts. I'll hush now

floridacathunter wrote:Hey, I value everyones out look. I agree that we shouldnt breed hounds that have genetic physical problems. If a hound has a behavior or performance trait that I cant correct through training or correction, and I cant tolerate. they are usually removed from our pack. I agree with the "good studs make better geldings" theory,somewhat, but commercialism and greed cause a lot of mediocre matings in horses and hounds. The "Pedestal"or cause my daddy was ole so and so, studs that are unproven, are examples of this greed. Over the years I have learned a few things that work for me. I don't sell hounds. I keep them for my own personal pleasure only. If I have a hound that doesnt suit me, I do not give them away, I eliminate them. I no longer give extra pups away. I have made these mistakes in the past. I think selling or giving away your culls or unproven pups,does more to propagate poor quality hounds than any thing else. I have 3 male hounds . I have young hounds off of one of them. I may never breed him or his littermate brother again, but I sure am glad I have that option, if I change my mind. Just my thoughts. I'll hush now

No.. you don't have to hush LOL.. I honestly see your point.. Or see where you are coming from..

I like a dog for it's hunting, but that just doesn't mean that I'm going to breed it.. Nothing gets fixed until it is about 2 ( I could probably go earlier, but I try and let dogs mature and see what they are like) I used to think I would never keep anything around that I wouldn't breed, but have since changed my mind. There are damn nice dogs out there that shouldn't be bred or don't reproduce when bred. I just think that keeping them intact is kinda pointless.. That is just my opinion of it..
I don't want "oops" litters.. Everything that is intact currently at my house I would raise pups from..

thank all of u for ur in put i am in the market for a new dog and some that are for sale are cut so i just wanted to be sure it would not take hunt out of them. u for filled my questions.......... now the hunt for a cat dog thank u all for the help..

I'm in the same camp as pegleg and floridacathunter, if it isn't breeding stock or potential breeding stock there isn't space in the kennel for it. But I can fully understand that not everyone needs to be a breeder.

Here's something I've noticed about males that have been cut. It does something to them so that other males think they are a female in heat or something. Put a cut male in with one that isn't and most of the time they will be trying to breed him