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Bark Collars

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2010 8:32 pm
by slickster03
Is 5-6months to early to put a bark collar on a pup and do you think it would effect how open she is on a track.

Re: Bark Collars

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:26 pm
by powderhorn
It always depends on the dog, but I would say no, its not too early. If I've got a bad kennel barking pup, I'll put a barking collar on right around 4&1/2 to 5 months consistantly with no problems. This will definitly have no effect on their willingness to open on track. They know the difference. Plus, when you get a stubborn barker as a pup that little bark collar is worth its weight in gold when you want to keep your own sanity..

Re: Bark Collars

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 9:43 pm
by bearsnva
Bark collars and e collars all have their place but with a pup you need to correct them at your comand. When you tell that pup to shut up, go and correct it with a firm command of NO and make it stick. That way anytime you use NO the dog nees to know that whatever is going on NO means STOP. One lesson will save you hours of training on other commands. Bark collars are useful, same as e collars, but are not the same as training. Use both, but collars as a back up to your training.

Re: Bark Collars

Posted: Wed Mar 24, 2010 11:28 pm
by sourdough
I would be very careful with a bark collar on young pups. In my opinion and my personal experience, you can brake, a puppies will to bark with the use of a bark collar, before they have had proper e-collar training. Bark collars were made for nuisance barking for the average Jo that have to work every day and don’t use their dogs as a houndsmen would. They do work great to control a dog from boredom behavioral barking and are good for keeping the county sheriff from showing up at your door. Now bark collars have their place in a houndsmens tool box that’s for sure. They are very practical to use on an adult dog that have problems with barking in the dog box while your driving down the road or for that male dog that’s getting a whiff of that female that coming into season in the kennel next to him. There is always a reason a dog barks at home, the biggest, is boredom. I am not saying that this is why you’re having the problem you’re having but I will say with most barking problems that is the root cause. As I stated above a dog should have proper e-collar training before strapping on a bark collar.


sourdough

Re: Bark Collars

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:05 am
by porkchop
I don't know about bark collars and But I do know That I live in town and have 5 dogs, My kennels back up to two of the 5 neighbors. I have and swear by the waterjet silencer it works so good that several of my neighbors didn't even know we had dogs for the first year we lived here. I highly recommend one.

Re: Bark Collars

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:08 am
by pegleg
water systems are effective

Re: Bark Collars

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 1:22 pm
by catenaround
i just got a blue tick 5 months old for the wife its her first hound. the people we got her from put a bark collar on her. and now she has some trust problems. dont know if it was all the bark callor or what the deal is but i dont think a pup this age needs one. when she barks in the kennel all it takes for HER is go out and be stern whith her tell her no and she stops for a couple hours any way. but shes catching on

Re: Bark Collars

Posted: Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:55 pm
by powderhorn
By 5-6 months, a dog should have an understanding of what "No" means. My dogs will be on there way to a good handle at this age and know several commands.. They have also had some experience knowing why to open and what to bark at, and that barking is encouraged in certain instances.. The collar is an effective tool for correcting behavior that is undesirable. IF your dog knows not to kennel bark by your commands and training... Then 5-6 months is not too early to put the collar on. at 5-6 months I expect my dogs to behave and will correct kennel barking just like I will correct running trash.. quickly and with as little trauma as possible while associating the correction directly with the problem. Water works but the shocker is my preference. I have never seen a negative effect on the dogs.

-Regarding a dog with any "trust issues" or timidity.. A collar is even more effective for correction since a timid dog can be made worse by any beating or direct human punishment.. instead the stimulation from the collar is directly associated with barking and a lot less traumatic than a smack or raised voice.