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Making pups think about it.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:29 am
by Powder River Walker
I was wondering if anyone thinks letting a pup sit by its self for a period of time to think about the last run,training session is benificial.
PRW

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 1:50 pm
by ZeluvaRIP69er
I don't think so... I think repetition and getting out as much as possible is the best.

Even when people let older dogs sit for a while they get so much energy and iggnorance in them that the first time you take them out you have to get out and make sure you took your hunting truck and not the short bus out lol.

I think waiting to long can harm a pup more then getting it out there and learning. Dogs even learn things that are important when you rode them, everything is a learning possibility for dogs... And people.

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 4:38 pm
by Powder River Walker
I guess is what I was saying is when you get home with a pup you put them by them selves for a while to think then put them back in with the pack. Just to allow them some alone time to think about that day. not to leave them in a a kennel and not use them. I guess this is more of a question for the guys who let all their dogs out together in a big lot.
PRW

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:30 pm
by twist
I do not no what the benefit of this would be. If a pup does well on an outing bring it home and do just as you do everyday with the pup alone time to me has no factor on how the pup will work the next time out just keep exposing to everyday enviroment and hunting. later, Andy

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 6:43 pm
by houndnhorse
Powder river, you just stumbled onto one of my secret training techniques. Give them some time to process, before introducing another stimulus. Good thinking man!

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:17 pm
by BWTB
I have heard of this. Also don't let a pup sit and think about a bad experience for a long time. try to end training sessions on a high note

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:53 am
by Powder River Walker
try to end training sessions on a high note


For sure, this always applies no matter if you are working horses, dogs, or coaching kids. I think this is the most important part. Things always remember the last thing.
PRW

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 12:46 pm
by sourdough
There is no doubt that a hound is capable of learning. When I say learning I mean basic learned commands come, load, even sit and lie down if you want to take it that far, but when it comes to instinctive behavior all we can do is guide them. Placing them in solitary to think about what just happened, is applying human type thinking to an animal who’s basic need are reproduction and eating. Just my opinion exposure, exposure, exposure and with some that will never do it!!!

sourdough

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 1:52 pm
by rzhounds
Its as easy as this in my oppinion. After they are 6-8 months old its 1,2,3 strikes your out is the way I look at it, they either have it or they don't. Dogs don't think like we do, when you get them back home they are thinking about when your going to feed them, and (if they have the desire) when they get to go hunting again, I can't see one reason at all putting them away from the pack will do a dang thing but make them bark more. Exposure is the best and only I think you can do for a pup. It all starts with the basic preschool and kindergarden training (putting a handle on them, no barking in the yard ext... and exposure). If you have the right strain of dogs or the right pup all the other B.S is errelivent in my oppinion. Manners, exposure, the right pup and the rest is history.. A hound can only be as good as the hound handler!!!!

RZ

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:07 pm
by ZeluvaRIP69er
:) I wonder who shares that same moto as you RZ :D

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 4:37 pm
by briarpatch
Well, Zeluva, I for one, agree completely with Sourdough and RZ. Don't claim to be an expert, but I have been "messing" with pups for 50 years.

briarpatch

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 7:00 pm
by cobalt
I say try it. I don't see it having any negative effect. Dogs have always proved to me they are smarter than I give them credit for. I always try to spend time with my dogs individually, away from the other dogs and I think it helps their cognitive developement in the field and I always hunt dogs alone at some point for confidence. Maybe some solitude after a training session can do some good. Never underestimate a dogs intelligence.

Re: Making pups think about it.

Posted: Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:10 pm
by houndnhorse
We just stumbled onto one of my other training secrets. Do exactly 180 degrees the opposite of what the experts say. It's a wonder I catch a damn thing. :lol: