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gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Sun May 30, 2010 11:47 pm
by I hunt redticks
I guess my wife thinkks i've gone crazy but i just added 4 more dogs to the family. i bought trigg dogs to try the bobcat thing. These cats around here just make fools out of my redticks. So now I'm gonna turn up the heat. Does anyone know of some good reading about the ancestory of these dogs. Oh I hope I still have hair left after this new adventure.

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:13 am
by radar
me to me to me to!!!!!!

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 1:51 pm
by s_parks
good luck gettin them runnin dogs to tree! :beer

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 2:26 pm
by DerekE
Hunt those Triggs a while and you might be changing your username. If they don't tree throw one of those redticks in with them. If he gets behind it's ok as long as he keeps his mouth closed til he catches up. Good luck with them.
Derek

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 5:07 pm
by BEAR HUNTER
I crossed a male trigg to a female swamp rooster bred red tick. Only 4 survived. they were 1 yr old last September Three are extremely hard tree dogs. Only one is light on the tree. he doesnt leave and you can tell he trees but he is not a blow down tree dog. I gave a pup to two differant hard hunters. One is smoking bear the other is catching fox. I've used my two on bear and they are showing a lot of promise. I'm going to play with these running dogs a little while longer. Here is a picture of my litte female. I posted the others under the Training section if you want to look at them.

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Mon May 31, 2010 6:10 pm
by Dads dogboy
Mr. Redtick,

That is good advise DerekE is giving you. Put the Redticks in with the Triggs, I bet they make each other better!

CJC

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 8:44 pm
by COOTER
www.barrencoky.com/trigghounds.htm Ihunt check out this webb site....cooter

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 9:45 am
by cat and bear
Bear hunter, good looking dog, from what I'm told, half/half works, and I'm trying it myself, I"ve got ten pups 5 weeks old. A few will be going to some honest, hard hunters, so time will tell us, used for cat and bear. As in cooters post, Earl Sanders, which started the trigg fox hound ass. Is alive and well, he is in his 80's. I have spoke with him several times, in my search for the right strain of triggs, along with hershal jointer, and some others, to try the outcross. In a nutshell, guys say, the chance of treeing, rigging or trailing your chances is much higher in the trigg, breed in general. Dads, dog boy breaks that theory with their line of running walkers :D I have also owned a few running walker crosses over the years, that done it all, but light treeing,that is why I'm trying the trigg line. From my experience, a running dog, is twice as tough as treeing dogs, regardless of color. Stamina, feet, speed, just to name a few traits, I'm looking for. You can never have enough of these traits. And these traits matter, when the snow is right, or wrong :D and you hunt four or five days in a row, and want to catch game, or kill season for bear, with limited time, or hunting game in other states, the dogs are not use to or conditioned to. I'm hoping these qualities, of the trigg or running dog, crossed into what I already enjoy, makes me a happy hunter :D We will know in a year? The only thing I was cautioned about is you have to stay on top of them for trashing when young. In the running dog breeds. I asked a friend in the west for his opinion, which guides and kills a lot of game said, a bad running dog, is still better then the best treeing dog, to catch game??? LOL

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 8:54 pm
by COOTER
cat and bear /// I think you will like those crosses I've had Triggs and Trigg crosses for lots of years.I,like you, talked with a lot of Trigg people including Sands and tried to get my Triggs from Greyfox hunters who over the years had bred their Triggs a little smaller,short coupled and built like whippets.I found that Triggs from western NC fit the bill but its like anything else Trial and Error.I never found the full bloods (except for one) to be any harder to break-out than any Treeing Walker I ever owned,thank GOD for Tri-tronics. I did discover that the 1/4,3/8 or 1/2 worked the best for a larger % of Tree stock if you live in places that have more running game Bobcat and Greyfox or Bear the 3/4 I would go with because of the bottom in them to run hard longer or more days without time off.The hardest Treedog and the one that was the hardest to break was a reg. Trigg from where it all started Glasgow,Ky fresh and rested on a greyfox I would put him with any dogs in my locale Fresno,Ca (brush country) there were dogs faster,for awhile,but none were tougher.One hunt I turned out on a greyfox and it ran all around us for 7 hrs in the first 4 hrs 4 fresh packs were turned in a total at one point of 22 dogs at the 7th hour I stopped Zipper and a 1/2 Trigg I owned they were the only 2 that were left in the race.Zipper was 1 1/2 Y.O. They drift,trail and work hard and they just seem to know when to throw that head up and RUN. Anyway good luck with crosses.

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:30 am
by cat and bear
Cooter thank you for sharing your personal experiences, with the triggs, I'm sure everything you wrote is very true, and that is why, I'm giving it a try. Two things concern me, nose, and grit on these bear. Its thick, lots of water, but raising them up here, gives them a fair chance. If the mix is right, they should be game catching machines. I'm not putting my eggs in one basket on this trial and error, so I've got a strain of walkers, I'm trying and really liking, for an outcross, and going to breed the bitch, when she comes in, as my stud is getting older. Kind of an insurance plan :D I know that cross will work :D

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:10 pm
by COOTER
I don't think you will have any trouble with grit,nose or drive. Check with Trueblue on here, he has one of my crosses and hunts only Bears.There is a long time Bear hunter and son that have owned Triggs for 30 yrs his name is Sonny Turner I don't have his number but he lives in Ca close to the oregon border,around Yreka I think.What line of Walkers do you own,their background breeding??

Re: gonna try the running dog breeds

Posted: Mon Jun 14, 2010 12:18 pm
by cat and bear
Cooter, I Pm you like to talk. These dogs I got are mutts. Years of tried true bear and pretty good cat dogs. alot of papered dogs in the past, which I dont keep them up, I tried taking the papers to the woods one day and left the dogs at home :D Didnt produce a race :D The outcross for walkers I'm going to try is weldon hoppmans, I've got two, and they have all the criteria I'm looking for so far, a few weeks, and I will know the rest, as training season starts. I'm pretty confident in them so far. Its great news, you think my questions of the trigg cross, will fit me, I'm pretty picky, I do have high hopes LOL