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sow with cubs
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:49 am
by robbyson99
Would a sow split from its cubs if you ran em with hounds? I mean run in total opposite directions. Then circle and go back towards the cubs or stick right with em till they get up a tree then run further? Just curious
Re: sow with cubs
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 12:51 pm
by kordog
one day during training season up on highland plantation maine we got lucky and had a big sow with three tiny fur balls cross right in front of the truck we dumped the young dogs down with the last fur ball just going down over the banking they treed not 100 yards in so we cut two experienced dogs in. after the cubs were up the tree ,but momma wasnt there the veteran dogs took after her and put her across two more roads at the end of the day she was still no wheres near her cubs . yearling bears seem to break off and get back together with momma or vise versa while your running them cause the pack will split and get back together repeatedly sometimes.
Re: sow with cubs
Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 4:15 pm
by spruce mountain
Most of the time they tree with the cubs,small cubs and yearlings. Once in a while they put them up and take off.Some times when you get to the tree the sow will bail out and take off. Good luck.
Re: sow with cubs
Posted: Wed Jun 23, 2010 1:11 pm
by mehounds
i run in the same woods as kordog apparently last year we had a race the dogs struck hard and blew off then scatterd all over hell by the end of the day i had been to four trees all over the country 3 had yearling cubs and one had a sow. on another day tranin we had a bear we'd rerun a few times sizable runs seen her come out of two trees on the third tree within a qrter mile of the stike she treed again this time she had a cub up with her wwe assume she dithched it and then came back to it
Re: sow with cubs
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:36 am
by Idaho Bison
We've been running some in the training season and they seem to split off and come back together a lot.
Re: sow with cubs
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:50 am
by BlacktailStalker
All the time.
Often they just leave the country to tow the dogs away from the cubs but I had mine split last spring, one treed the cubs and the sow took off.
However she came back and mashed my other dog into the ground as he was off trailing out on her.
He kept on her though and pushed her out so I pulled the one that was treed off and kicked her into the race to help out on that bitch sow.
In the end they got ledged out and by the time my male made it down he was a mess, puking/pissing blood (organ damage I imagine) but he made it through the night and was fine, just gets after bears twice as hard now

The last one I ran had a cub. I was collaring dogs and my female left and started a bear alone that must have come down from the timber that I didnt see when driving in to where I often empty the dogs out.
I saw them (the bears) headed up the cut block to the timber line. The sow chased the cub up the tree,turned around and charged my dog (it was steep so I saw the whole thing) she held her own for 3-4 mins and by then I had finished collaring up another and kicked him out, he heard the ruckus and ran up cut block the 7-800 yards to get in the mix, the sow broke and the race started.
She looped all over and eventually crossed the valley and up the other side into the bluffs where they got ledged out an hour and a half later (huge problem here)
Got em back and drove to the end of the valley, went for an elk shed hunt and came back through a couple hours later and she still hadnt crossed back to get her cub (they would have struck if she had)
Maybe she was ledged too

Re: sow with cubs
Posted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 3:05 am
by Idaho Bison
We've had them tree a lot to gather their breath then they come down and work their way back towards the cubs.
Re: sow with cubs
Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:34 pm
by bearintheair
The one we treed 2 weeks ago put her cubs up right away and then ran for 4 hours, looping back near her cubs 6 or 7 times before finally teeing with them. Then last weekend we had one take her cubs with her, they ran for about 45 minutes before treeing up but as soon as we leashed dogs she bailed, I assume to try and draw the dogs away from the cubs. We sand all our baits to try and avoid running sows with cubs cause it can turn nasty quick, those are the first one's I have seen treed in my 5 years of bear hunting. I imagine running off of rigs is a bit more difficult to tell if it's got cubs.
Re: sow with cubs
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 12:00 am
by wanchese
we dont turn out on a sow that we know has cubs
Re: sow with cubs
Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2010 2:11 am
by ZeluvaRIP69er
One day dad and I rigged, the road had a lot of tracks on it so we turned the dogs loose. We heard a strange noise in a pine tree not too far from the road, walked over and two cubs about the size of a big watermelon were there. The sow had thrown them up there and ran off, we videod the little cubs and the sow treed about a mile from them, we went to the tree and videod her for a minute, pulled the dogs, walked back to the truck and got to video the cubs climb down the tree and scream for momma. It was the first and only time I got to see cubs that small and got to hear them, we still have that video, it is a pretty cool one.
Most of the time I have seen the sow in the tree with the cubs, always below them, and the most I saw was 3 cubs, 2 very blondes, a red, and black cub with a red mom.
Reed remembers that tree

It was his sons first tree and we caught them the morning of my 16th birthday.