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Please help the new guy.
Posted: Wed May 18, 2011 3:32 pm
by Jason Bass
Hey guys I got a question about using bobcat lure. Well I got a young dog around 9 months old and is doing well on coons and I want to start him on bobcats. So I bought some of that Grawes bobcat scent. The only problem is that it looks chunky in the bottle. So what is the best way to apply this stuff. Also I don't have a bobcat skin so what should I use at the tree I want him to tree at. When coon hunting I place a skin up the tree, is that the same on cats. I've never trained a dog on cats so any help would be great. Also I got a friend who covers feral cats with lure but that is not for me so how do u guys lay a drag?
Re: Please help the new guy.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 5:23 am
by pegleg
training a bobcat dog on a drag is risky. it's so unlike the actual track that your most likely going to end up frustrated. mike has a training thread on here that is pretty straight forward.
the issue is using a good scent and sparingly. anytime you buy concentrated scents you run the chance of training your hound to run only heavy scent trails and that omits almost every cat track your likely to run into. using the tip of a paint roller and leaving eighteen inches or more between "tracks" teaches them to look for small scent pools and not be afraid to move a ahead on track.
depending on your area I wouldn't work them on the "tree" but end those track every where but in a tree once they seem to be doing ok start tapping tree's but leave obvious tracks coming away from the tree and work up to ten or fifteen feet to the first track coming away from the tree. If your hound really checks his tree's before treeing and can get used to the tree tapping cats tend to do your headed the right way with the right hound. the other thing I work my hounds on is running complicated tracks with speed. this is usually one of the few "training" trails I run with my dogs anymore. I want to see what they are capable of doing alone on a track I know and can judge fairly.
The thing is you need a hound who's style works for the area you hunt. everything else is just education and pulling those traits to the top.
Re: Please help the new guy.
Posted: Thu May 19, 2011 2:00 pm
by WyoHunter
Mike Leonards method is the one that I have used. But there is no substitute for the real thing! Your first year will be tough but persistence pays. Good Luck
Re: Please help the new guy.
Posted: Fri May 20, 2011 12:17 am
by Jason Bass
Thanks for the info. Here another dumb question for you pegleg. If I don't use a tree will my dog stop and tree on open ground where ever I end my track. I mean do they need anything visual or will he just tree at the end of my track? Thanks