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Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:23 am
by brushcreek
I've gathered some input from a few hound hunters who are interested in a bear hunt. We will try to organize at least 1 in Idaho and possibly Utah. For now the Idaho hunt will take place in training units 32 and 22 and the date will be sometime in July. The hunt will be a 4 dog buddy hunt. 1 hunter will have to be over 20 years of age and the other must be under 20. There will be an entrance fee(still not decided upon). The hunt will be a pot hunt where the 1st thru 3rd place teams take home a percentage of the pot(that also needs to be decided upon). A digital camera will be required as well as a range finder. Sim cards will be provided and if someone needs help getting a camera or range finder arrangements can be made to provide such. The hunt will be two days and will start at one location and end at same. The hunters will be required to meet that night before the hunt begins and all admission will take place. And after the second day(full days of legal hunting hours) hunters will return to same location. Most likely Council. Hunts will be judged upon certain criteria that they must show on camera. This will include and could be altered but will be somewhat close to such.
1. Must show dogs at tree and get a close enough footage(within 50 yards of a clean kill shot). The range finder must be used to show this.
2. On a bay up (this is worth double a tree) you must get within 50 yards (and show a clean kill shot) and also show this with range finder.
3. Still not decided upon but most likely require both buddies at tree or bay up.
4. Only One vehicle per team.

So obviously the team with the most points will win. One point for tree and 2 for a bayup.

Any suggestions or changes ect., send me PM or just respond to post.

And a videos will be made and sent the first thru third place finishes.

This is a competition for the best of the best. IF it's not in you don't respond or save your posts for the laugh box. This is where the real hunters will shine and the excuses leave there marks just the same.

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:09 am
by DC DOGGIN
This sounds good, once you get a couple down, come on down to CA and get one rollin i know several guys that would foam at the mouth for something like this. Have fun be safe and may the best team win lol. DC

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 11:30 am
by ferjr
That sounds cool, keep us posted to when it is to take place. I will deffinitely go, I just have to find someone that is under 20 to go with me.

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 2:35 pm
by Lil Joes BigGame hounds
The under 20 rule is an excellent idea. I also like the 4 dog limit. Good luck!

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 3:35 pm
by Sethchase
Sounds like fun. Im looking forward to hearing more about it!
Seth Chase 806-392-3984
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Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 4:18 pm
by Rigger
So when is this going to take place in Utah?

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:11 pm
by Redwood Coonhounds
I'm not sure why you'd be rewarding more points for dogs baying a bear, instead of treeing it. I know I don't go around hoping to catch a baying bear. I want it in a tree. There's a lot of bear people bay, that will climb a tree. So if they have better dogs they get less points? If you have 4 good beardogs, they'll put most bears in a tree.

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:31 pm
by Catch
You aren't going to get to many bay up in the bear park. Another thing, why have a hunt in the easiest hunt in Idaho to prove "the best of the best"? Do a hunt around Lowman and see what you can catch.

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:19 pm
by Nolte
Redwood Coonhounds wrote:I'm not sure why you'd be rewarding more points for dogs baying a bear, instead of treeing it. I know I don't go around hoping to catch a baying bear. I want it in a tree. There's a lot of bear people bay, that will climb a tree. So if they have better dogs they get less points? If you have 4 good beardogs, they'll put most bears in a tree.


Well if one subscribes to that theory, the people with better dogs will simply tree more bear since they won't spend a couple hours baying one on the ground. They will just tree the jumped bear and then repeat the process.

Since it is in relatively the same area, why not have a third category that would allow a team to cross over to a bayed one and have them try to put it in a tree. Have team A pull off and let the other team give it a whirl. If they tree it, give them an additional 2 points or something.

From my experience, lots of dogs can be found under a bear tree. A much smaller amount will want to mix it up with a bear that wants to push back. Now granted dogs found under a bear tree may be rock star hair pullers that put a feisty bear in a tree, but it's pretty tough to figure out unless you come across one that you know is snappy. Until then it's all a guess. In our neck of the woods if every bear chase ends up in a tree, most likely the dogs are quitting a tough one before you know it OR you've gotten real lucky and haven't got on a pissy one yet.

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 6:41 pm
by zachvu
I like the idea of just setting it at getting a bear within 50 yards on a range finder and photos of it is one point. If it were a harvest hunt, that's what it would basically require to be able to take the bear correct? Of course there's going to be other circumstances, but a bear within 50 yards and a photo on a camera should usually be a pretty easy shot, and equal one point! JMO

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:16 pm
by Catch
The unit in Idaho that is proposed doesn't prove anything. You won't need a range finder and you will not need to turn dogs in to see if they can tree it. One dog can tree 99% of the bear. It is easy, and those that know the area will catch the bear. To prove who has what in 32 is basically a waste of time!

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:36 pm
by Redwood Coonhounds
I say hold that contest opening weekend of California A zone. :wink:

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 8:51 pm
by Lil Joes BigGame hounds
Well catch why don't you hold your own competition. You sure are quick to judge everyone else and you seem to have hunted every place a bear has ever walked. So why don't you be the judge also. :lol: Let em run there bear hunt and you go run your dogs.

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 10:08 pm
by bency
Sounds like a challenge for the "FLACKO"!

Re: Best of the Best Bear dogs 2012

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 12:49 am
by brushcreek
So there's some competitors! I'm excited. Oh and by the way Catch If you aren't a competitor than save your comments for the laugh box. I would disagree with you Cassandra but sounds like I don't have dogs of your caliber. Maybe we can do something in California as well so I can see some real bear dogs. I hope this can take place in different states. I love to see new country. Sounds like some New Mexico boys are ready to compete. We'll diffenately try one down there. I know there some real good old boys and hounds in that country. I'd be glad to meet some of ya. This could be a lot of fun.