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Scat
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:23 pm
by dwalton
How many of you guys that were not bare ground cat hunters knew that bobcats did not cover there scat? It seems that I have offended someone by stating the facts to harshly by the PM I got. Years ago when there were just a few bounty hunters for lion a lot of people thought that a lion scape was made by there front foot. Ignorance has never been a problem for me,[ according to some of you it still is not] If I am wrong I don't mind being corrected unless it is from my ex wife. That is how we learn. I have question most everything in my life at one time or another and would encourage everyone to do so. Some of us have just had the opportunity to learn things that another has not. I have very little computer skills and I fight learning any more about them. I don't know it all,I don't have the best dogs,I am always looking for the perfect dog and I do see things that I miss interpret. In spite of what some of you my thing I am not perfect. I do have a ego as all of us do. Dewey
Re: Scat
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:50 pm
by Unreal_tk
Dewey,
No one had told me this, the few times I saw it uncovered I figured they just was in a hurry. Im relatively new to the game so knowledge is still coming up left and right for me. I just assumed it was like a house cat.
Re: Scat
Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:47 pm
by dwalton
Unreal-tk: I realized this about you and that you were just looking for knowledge which is a good thing. You have done well enough with your dogs that you will make a top cat hunter. You are open to learning. The PM that I got this morning was not from you I hope it did not appear that I was directing my remarks at you. I have received a couple of PMs lately from people one of them was someone that I thought was a knowledgeable person and had a lot of respect for, not anymore. He just hunted a different type of dog than I do, I would of liked to try one his dogs, not anymore. Evidently I stepped on there EGO. Dewey
Re: Scat
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:38 am
by cobalt
I guess that'll teach 'em.
Re: Scat
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 10:35 am
by CRA
Unreal-tk,
About 2 weeks ago before you posted that picture of scat I responded to a thread you started (locating heavy bobcat activity). If you will go back and reread what I posted, I wrote that cats dont cover their droppings. All a cat does is scratch the ground with a few kicks prior to making his or her deposit. I have also seen where they dont even kick at times. The one thing they are not like is house cats and cover their droppings with their front feet. Unreal-tk, I really like your questions, it shows me you are trying to learn this sport of bobcat hunting with a very open mind. I bet you will someday if not now be a good bobcat houndsmen. You definitely have a wondering mind and not afraid to ask a question.
Dewey, if someone was sending you rude PM's over bobcat deposits being covered up they haven't spent enough time out of their pickup to really see what goes on. I have located 100's of cat toilets throughout the years while walking my dogs into the rimrocks and have never once seen where a cat has covered their droppings.
Re: Scat
Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:56 am
by Unreal_tk
CRA,
Thanks I will go back a re read it, sometimes you miss information the first go around. I am always thinking of scenarios and stuff but I don't want to go from just my conclusion because it very well could be wrong!
Re: Scat
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 11:33 am
by Dads dogboy


Above are two Bobcat "Kicks" with a deposit of Poop. This would be a Marking Post, a way of communicating to other Bobcats.
I will try to post a Pic of a Bobcat toilet later this weekend. At a toilet you may find several to many piles of Scat. In Florida this past winter I showed David where a Big Sow
Cat had left 12 piles. We have run her several times, she goes into a "Gopher" hole about the time you think that the pack is going to stretch her.
Mr. Dewey, the biggest nemisest that a New Cat Hunter has is "They"! They say that a Bobcat always covers it's Scat, They say you can not Rig a Bobcat in the South, They say that you can not run a Bobcat at night, They say that a Sow give no scent when nursing young, They say that a Bobcat can hold it's scent.
Now several times I have tried to capture that elusive "They" yet "They remains just out of reach....when I ask Joe who is the "They" he just mentioned, Joe says that he can not remember, but"They " have always said it...whatever IT was.
Wives tales and Folklore have to separated from fact, a FACT is a fact not something open for interpretation!
JMO!
Re: Scat
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 12:37 pm
by Unreal_tk
Thanks for the photos, I do have another question. I was looking at the couple scrape pictures I do have and I couldn't find any scat on it. Do they make scrapes without droppings as well?
Re: Scat
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:04 pm
by dwalton
Yes they do scrape without leaving scat, more so rutting but it can be anytime. If you smell the scape you will smell cat pee most of the time if it is fresh. Dewey Dewey
Re: Scat
Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:50 pm
by tomtom
Anytime I want a quick analysis of any new area whether it's calling or hounding, the first thing I do is find the roads and look for scat. Why they like to crap in the roads I don't understand but they do. And they don't cover it.
Re: Scat
Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 1:21 am
by webb
Have you guys ever noticed that a scrap will give the general direction they the cat has went of too?