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Any news yet?

Well according to Dan Noyes twitter account. The vote currently stands at 3-2 in favor of Bill. He said supposed to know final vote at 1pm at latest. But nothing else further. Nor do I know if that statement from him is accurate.

From same source" Bill passed 5-3. now on to some other committee. Very sad day in California.

what steps are next?

Some appropriations committee. I do not know what that is or means but I'd imagine Josh would be saying something shortly on what to do next.

Not only a sad day for Californiia but the whole U.S. Do not know if there are enough level headed people left to turn this country around at the polls.

sad but true Big N Blue i belive the antis will clean up the rest of the west coast. then walk thru arizona, than utah. pretty much in that order. if houndsmen don't quit being so self centered and trying to pick peoples pocket for a greedy buck. and spend some time with the kids who are the future of the sport it will be a thing of the past!

I was at the hearing. It was sickening. Lots of good info, but still pretty tough. Good hunter turnout. We will have to beat it in the house I believe. Which will be even harder if I understand correctly. I am sure more will come on how we can continue to fight it. I think I have a pretty good idea on what goes on, but I am far from a politician, so I don't want to spread incorrect info on accident. So I will wait to see exactly what we need to do, besides pray.

Hope we can get working real quick.

slowandeasy wrote:sad but true Big N Blue i belive the antis will clean up the rest of the west coast. then walk thru arizona, than utah. pretty much in that order. if houndsmen don't quit being so self centered and trying to pick peoples pocket for a greedy buck. and spend some time with the kids who are the future of the sport it will be a thing of the past!

slowandeasy, whereabouts in Arizona you live? I have spent alot of time in AZ in years past and will again in the near future, God willing. I usually hunt down on the Blue river.Would love to meet you one day. You have nailed it about the youngsters, we must get them involved. The sad part is that even if we get young people involved it will be hard for them to be able to afford to hunt and raise a family.

HOW A BILL BECOMES LAW IN CALIFORNIA
All legislative bills start as an idea. Any individual or group can bring an idea for a new law or a change
in an existing law to a state legislator. If a Senator or Assembly member decides to author the idea and
take it through the official steps, it is first drafted into legal language called a bill.
FIRST READING ~
• A bill is introduced into the Assembly or the Senate and given a number beginning with AB or SB to
indicate which house it starts in; then it is sent to the Office of State Printing.
• No bill may be acted upon until it has been in print for 30 days.
COMMITTEE HEARINGS ~
• Each bill is assigned to appropriate policy committees where it is scheduled for one or more hearings.
Bills that require money or have fiscal implications must also be heard in the fiscal committee.
• Anyone can speak for or against a bill before or during hearings. Letters of support or opposition are
important and should be mailed to committee members well before the hearing date.
• A majority vote of the full committee is required for a bill to be approved and "passed out" of the
committee.
SECOND AND THIRD READINGS ~
• Bills passed by committees are read a second time and then placed on file for a third reading.
• When a bill is read the third time it is explained to the full house by its author, discussed by the
Members during the floor debate, and voted on by a roll call vote.
• Most bills need a majority vote (21 votes in the Senate and 41 votes in the Assembly) to be passed; but
bills that require money or are urgency bills (take effect immediately) require a two-thirds vote (27 in
the Senate and 54 in the Assembly) for passage.
• If a bill is defeated the Member may seek reconsideration and another vote
REPEAT PROCESS IN OTHER HOUSE ~
Once a bill has been approved by the house of origin, it proceeds through the second where the same
hearing and review procedure is repeated.
RESOLUTION OF DIFFERENCES ~
• A bill that is amended in the second house must go back to the first house for agreement on the
amendments (concurrence). If agreement cannot be reached, the bill moves to a two-house conference
committee (3 members of the Assembly and 3 members of Senate) to resolve differences.
• Conference committee hearings are open to the public and are at other times when citizen influence can
help legislators arrive at a decision.
• If the committee reaches a compromise, the final version is returned to both houses for a vote.
• When approved by both the Senate and Assembly, the bill then goes to the Governor.
GOVERNOR ~
• The Governor has three choices when a bill reaches his desk. He can sign it into law, allow it to become
law without his signature or veto it
• A final and very important time for citizen participation in the bill process is when the bill reaches the
Governor’s desk. Letters and phone calls received by the Governor’s office are taken into
consideration when he decides whether to sign or veto a bill.
• If the Governor vetoes the bill, it returns to the house of origin where the author may ask for a vote to
override the veto. It requires two-thirds vote of both houses to override the Governor’s veto.
• Urgency measures take effect immediately after they are signed; other bills usually become effective the
following January 1st.

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Anti-hunting Bill Clears California Senate Committee
(Columbus) – California legislation that would ban the use of hounds to hunt black bears and bobcats was passed out of committee today. Opponents of Senate Bill 1221 were unable to convince members of the Natural Resources Committee that the bill was unnecessary and a product of political revenge. The committee approved SB 1221 by a 5 to 3 vote. There was one abstention.

The bill, which is sponsored by the Humane Society of the United States (HSUS), triggered an outpouring of opposition from California sportsmen, sportsmen’s organizations in the state, and on a national level, including the U.S. Sportsmen’s Alliance (USSA). More than 600 opponents sporting orange NO on SB 1221 buttons packed the committee room and the corridors of the capital to make sure their Senators knew where they stood.

“It is unbelievable that the members of this committee ignored the thousands of calls, emails and letters along with the dedicated sportsmen and women who took off work to be here today to oppose this unfair and unjustified attack on California hunters," said Evan Heusinkveld, USSA’s director of state services. “But we are not giving up. We are prepared to make our case to the full Senate.”

USSA has been working with the Masters of Foxhounds Association, California Houndsmen for Conservation and the California Outdoor Heritage Alliance to defeat SB 1221.

California sportsmen should contact their senators today. Let them know that SB 1221 is an attack on all hunting. Hunting with hounds is an essential tool to control black bear numbers.

Visit the Legislative Action Center for your Senator’s contact information.

I was in the room when the entire bill was discussed. It seemed very clear that certain Senators had made their decision way before they even heard each sides so called expert testimony. The CHC hound hunting testimony was well thought out and was based on facts, not emotions. It didn't matter the Senator's knew their vote before even going through the motions. I would like to thank Senator Doug La Malfa for backing the hound hunters 100% and becoming a lifetime member of CHC. He's a good man and will always have my vote of approval.


I would like to thank all hound hunters and everyone one else that went down to the Capitol Building and opposed this ridiculous bill. I was very pleased to see the turn out that we had. I honestly dont believe we would have had the votes if we would have even doubled our numbers. Democrat's stick together on almost all issues and sadly they have the majority in California.

Our focus now will have to be the financial impact that passing of this bill will have on the state. Hopefully Governor Brown will stop it, because I have very little hope for the appropriation committee.

Let's go ahead and ban the use of dogs. No more guide dogs. Thats unfair to a dog that should run and play and live a normal life. No more cattle or sheep dogs. So cruel, the dogs are forced to do something they hate and not out of habit.. No more dog shows UKC or AKC, the grooming process and treatment of show dogs is too cruel. WAA WAAAA WAAAA California, is a sad place.
How about take a look at the fact that the black bear population has more than doubled in population size since 1985. Lets also look at the facts that there is a steady decrease in deer populations due to the unchecked balance of mountain lions in california, which infact, california fish and game has no idea on where the lion population is in size.
Fact 1. Mountain lions kill a single deer every 3-6 days and roughly consume 20% of the animal and leave it to waste. (they frequently never return for the kill)
Fact 2. Bears seek out fawn deer within the first few weeks of birth, because they make easy prey.
Fact 3. 85% of bears that are taken in california to sustain a healthy population are taken with dogs...
Therefore would you think that the california deer populations are in serious trouble thanks to the senate of California?
Fact 4. California is filled with ignorant and idiotic senators that should have no say or concern in any area of fish and game, especially ant-hunters and the American humane society.
Sorry for the rant, I have no tolerance for idiots.

Once again the will of the people stomped on by the special interest . When will it stop. I feel a revolt a commin!

pchop wrote:Once again the will of the people stomped on by the special interest . When will it stop. I feel a revolt a commin!

I'm with you pchop! lead the way!