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Smiley wrote:Travis their bears over there are basicaly like our grizzly , they do not climb and they do deliver punishment.
I am like you I had no desire to own a plott when i started but they earned my respect in percentage of top beardogs produced . All lines and breeds have thier TOP tear beardogs but when you go to percentages of bear stopping power the plott breed and even some cur breeds and the good old southwest dogs will have the highest percentages of bear stopping dogs least in my short 15 years experience .
This how I have seen it from personel experience
I have seen the real deal top beardogs in every breed except english but know they are out there .
Hunted with more walkers than any other breed and seen some bearstopping walkers from will and preston Marcroft in Mackay Idaho .
But for every line or person that runs a line of walkers or any other breed that produces a strong percentage of bear stoppers I could name 2 in the plott breed that are producing as high a percentage or better .










Now ya done it dawg ! ya give me room to make an observation or so myself. Hey the differance between a bear dog and one that gets too tuff on a salty dog killen bear/ is experience and desire too fight the bear but wize enoughf too know the bear can rip him limb from limb and nothen left to bury of the dog that just madea mistake and charged-in anyways!
Ya anyone with a brain wants a hound who pops his jaws, snarrlls and growlls/ rushes round and round the bear gettin the bear out of posittion so the dog can fang an dodge and it scares a bear to want too tree, he might can`t, he might not will, but he will peall back claws tryen by thunder ! If ya want too know is he a beardog or does he have enoughf actuall experience too stay alive and not pull the pin : bust that bear brakeing down his front sholder and let the dog loose solo agin on it and if he stays fighten in close and all for 10 minutes and dont get crippled nor kille and don`t pull the pin/ hey, thats a bear dog ! Now my man just how many dogs (solo) do you have around ya that can go out tree up solo 3-5 bear or 4-6 bear solo and ya bust one out don`t brake his jaw and let that solo dog fight him for 10 minutes don`t pull the pin on him neither !???can ya count em on one hand and have 2 fingers or 3 fingers left not up and showen ?! If so, how can any man then clain a breed over another breed! Brains and experiences and roughf-n-tumble also adds in high + at least 3-5 bear treed up solo too say a dog is a surenuff bear dog/ lesser dogs arn`t beardogs they may as Roger Stewart would say=caused a few bear too loose their lives though.
I would say that this hunters question is less estute though hes looken at percentages too help weigh out a choice of pup ! If that is correct he needs too just know(beardogs are born not by breed but by touched specially for it from birth) ofcourse if ya hunt em it helps a whole lot and if ya know how too hunt helps a whole lot too.But ya knew that allready you knew all of this allready/ or ya wouldn`t beable too get under a bear tree up by yourself/hahahaha this hunter need a suport group too hunt withthat rolls out friday eveings and hunts all weekend and rolls back in sunday some time. Good experienced known hunters who will put him under their wing and he can fall in order too the pack of hunters and have fun and learn it right to ! What do ya think too that instead of blowen on 1 breed which ya allready admitted your self isent squar too the board/none are as a breed that i know of and i like walkers,plotts & black & tans & American Blueticks/ at least 1 good line in each of them breed as there is a line doing well on bear also ask Budd Denny he has 2 and he is on the mapp on the great lakes and on cat & bear ! There is a line of Redbone too that is cat & bear dogs too.
Ic don`t know noone other than Rick Summers who wouls say and honestly believe Walkers was the KING.I know yo said its not in stone and there is some not good in each breed / so your off the hook completely cause it is part of your full accounting an weighs-in by you too said/ I`d like too see ya take some hunter in around you and add him under the brotherhood clocking of the faturnity of bear hunters.
all this was said by me actuall for that hunter too glean and keep in mind and to maybe get some clanish bear hunters group too check this guy out an possiably take him along hunting this year/what do ya think ?


jack pepper














I could also name a long list of plott breeders that are not producing bearstopping dogs .
I really tried to stay away from the plott breed I thought they were ugly and had heard every negative about them and believed what i heard .
I did not like a couple of the "PLOTTGUY" that were in my area . but when you are following the dogs and see what is going on and what dogs are doing the work on bears that would not tree or bay up and hold and then get flat stopped or made to climb well if you are in it to catch game and not just listen to the dog well it changes you mind and you go to what you have experienced to be the best.
Now that was my story and I know there are many stories that will not include the plotts in the light I have portrayed.

Here is something that for me has shown the biggest difference in a top bear dog after being hurt ( not just rolled but run off and caught by a bear that it's intent was to kill the dog ) a bear that is like that will often scramble a good dogs mind and when they get on a true mean bear those dogs remember and even the ones you see bite a bear in most circumstances will not get close to a bear like that. Dogs can tell the difference in what type of attitude the bear has going on.

I have seen many dogs that would bite a bear as it was trying to climb or bust cover but when that bear stops to fight well it is a whole different story and those "gritty dogs " are dang near soiling themselves .
It is my belief that most people have better hearing than I have eyesight .
If you know what I mean.

ryan goodwin wrote:LETS GET-ER-DONE. A little cage fighting wouldnt hurt a feller lol. this has been brought up before in the past and we allways get the same answer.The plott men,ouch that hurts just saying that word lmao, english,redbone,bluetick,cur,walker ahh, no really its your own flipping oppion to hunt what ever you want on what ever you want. Of course i will say the blood line i we have now is the best wich i truley belive it is but then agin so will the plott man the english o you get it, WALKERS is what I hunt and is all i will hunt so call me coler blind what ever I my dogs do the job just fine and they dont have to prove them selves to nobody eles but me. AND IF YOU DONT LIKE ME BITE ME! all this BS about whos better then who our whos dog is better our breeds better is getting old,this is like high school. caint we all just get along. O MY GOD I ALMOST FOR GOT STRAWBERRY MT. FOR LIFE
LMFAO, Take care just my oppion so dont get your panties in a bunch

Swede wrote:I se theres a lot of good bear hunters and dogs on this site.
And im woundering what dog rase (breed) are the best for bear hunting and why?
Of course i know that all rases have their good and bad dogs, but if you only could have one rase for bear hunting what would it be and why?
In Sweden we only use plotts so fare, but as im looking at this page a se alot of other rases the are used for bear hunting with good results. Thats why im asking.

Smiley wrote:
Maybe you and ryan can draw a Idaho permit and come bring Team Strawberry shortcake for a run over here or come hunt with me in B.C. this summer I would be happy to tell others how good those dogs are.

Spanky wrote:now you know why questions like this can not be answered and why the smart half of the board has stayed away from it. You can not proclaim one breed as the best with soo many different variables without pissing off someone who takes offense over words on a board.