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western catdogs against south texas cats
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:39 am
by coastrangecathunting
I got a call today from a guy in south texas that was asking me about the 3 catdogs i have for sale . This got me thinking . Has anyone ever taken catdogs from the west coast to south texas . If so how did they do ? If u havent or have i would still like to here your imput . How do u think they would do.
jc
Re: western catdogs against south texas cats
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:02 am
by mtdoghunter
jc i have heard that the over aboundance of cats down there makes it easier to find a track but the dry conditions make it harder to move a track then like where you hunt, i am going down there in the end of january to try and run my dogs with a guy will let you know how it turns out.
Re: western catdogs against south texas cats
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:18 am
by mike martell
J.C.
Good dogs are good any place they are dropped....You will have a transition time for adjusting. To me if you can't tree game, any game you target with the way the dog has been trained they were mediocre dogs to begin with. I have listened to the same b.s. on bear dogs. Real bear dogs catch bear where ever they are dropped. I'm sure you will have some adjustment time but if they are the real deal they will go to catching.....
Dogs either got it or not, you sell a real deal dog to a man in bobcat country that knows little about handling, you are not going to catch much of any thing, you might for a little while until the person unravels the training.....The best bet is to have the buyer pay to ship you and the dogs to Texas so they can be seen on the tree. This works two ways, the seller will be put on the spot as well.....
Good Luck!
Re: western catdogs against south texas cats
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:17 pm
by johnadamhunter
J. C.
I partially agree with Mike. A good dog is a good dog whereever he is hunted but only to a point. I have hunted Il., Ms., and Wi. a lot. Most dogs transition well between these states. I also have hunted Va., W. Va., Tn. and some in N.M. The dogs transition well in these states as well. The biggest problem transitioning dogs, I have found to be, is not scenting conditions as much as terrain or running conditions. Some dogs just will NOT take the brush and briars of Ms. yet do fine in the swamps of Wi. or the mtns. of W. Va. Others seem to climb the first mtn. or go around the first straight wall they come to. My thought would be to treat them the same as you would a young 'started' dog the first few times out. Run them with good broke dogs from that area a time or two.
Mike is right about going down to hunt with them. Not many of us take our head out of the sand enough to really know how adaptable our dogs really are! If more of us would hunt away from home more....... we'd know.
JMHO
John
p.s. Let us know how it works out. I am very interested!
Re: western catdogs against south texas cats
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:08 pm
by Unreal_tk
I hope everything works out for ya there JC. When I took my dogs over to your country I was really scared of trash issues and surprisingly I didn't really encounter any with my dogs... per say. As for the cat races... my dogs did strike one the first night... but I didn't get them in that race due to my collars weren't up on the gps yet when the other guy's dogs had took off already. When I did get them in a race the next night... my dogs barely opened when usually they are very open. I assume this was because they weren't 100% sure it was ok(as in it was good game), because of all the new smells (vegetation, etc). Also when I was over there it was somewhat dry compared to what I assume ideal conditions would be.
Now this isn't anything like what you are wanting to know, but this was my experience with taking my dogs out of their comfort zone. I do however want to make another trip over there when conditions are ideal.
Re: western catdogs against south texas cats
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2012 11:29 pm
by coastrangecathunting
i think they would do fine , but there is always the i dont know for sure factor. i do with out a dought in my mind know they would rig and start tracks . and locate tree . the only thing i would be worried about is putting enough preasure on a cat over there . these are dogs that i have hunted with alot of other hunters and have done more than proven them self . to tell the truth 9000 is way to cheap but that is the direction i want to go right now . i would bet u i have more in gas money into them than that. im getting off topic , lets here some more about what others think. thanks for the comments so far.
jc
Re: western catdogs against south texas cats
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:08 pm
by Warner5
I dont have the money to go down there for a hunting trip, but I do have the resorces here to put hunter and dogs up for a week or two. If anyone from that area would like to see how a south texas catdog would run a western cat and would like to take me up on the offer send me a P.M. Thank you. John.
Re: western catdogs against south texas cats
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2012 2:49 pm
by cobalt
Bryce May from Eugene, Or. area sent a few young dogs and later a few pups to a cat hunter in SW Texas a few years ago.
I was talking to a friend over a year ago and he happen to mention that he talked to a guy in Texas who was cat hunting dogs from Bryce May and having good success with then especially on the jump. My friend is a very reliable source. His name is Jack Hall.
Re: western catdogs against south texas cats
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:26 pm
by South Texan
Ya'll have to remember, Texas is a big state, with lots of different kinds of terrain. From desert country in the west to swamps in the east & lots of different kinds inbetween. So....it really depends on what part of Texas you're going to.
But I'm in total agreement with Mike. If a dog is a real cat dog when he smells cat he should get excited enough to work the trail no matter where he is. As Mike said, it might take a little while for him to adjust to a different kind of a terrain but if he's got the desire to run a cat, he'll figure the terrain out in time. Transition time will vary between dogs. They're all different. But I sure think it will help selling the 3 dogs together into a different kind of country. When ol so & so hears ol so & so opening on a cat he's going to go help'em out. They will adjust faster.
My thoughts on the subject.
Robbie
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