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Curiousity.
Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 11:52 pm
by Unreal_tk
Y'all hunt those mixed running and tree dogs. I am curious do you see many tree aggressive dogs or face barkers when using this mix ? I'll be honest I own a face barker female she is also my best tree dog. I do however get on her when I'm there but can't help it when I'm not. My other dogs don't really have any problems like that, occasionally if a strange dog is around you might see something but its unusual. Just all this talk about the mixed up stuff we didn't really cover this. Also if your lurking somewhere Dan how are your leopards in this department ?
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 1:11 pm
by catdog360
Unreal, that's strange all the fox hounds I have been around are the most mellow dogs I have been around. I'm guessing the aggression comes from the tree dog taking ownership.
Mic
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 2:17 pm
by Unreal_tk
She is a blue dog with no running dog. My question is exactly as you answered. Basicclly trying trying to see if this common tree dog trait is carried much in the mixed blood stuff/curs. There are alot of dogs who are tree aggressive and or game possieve.
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:27 pm
by catdog360
From my experience the running dogs are more team players. They cheat more. The tree dogs are more individuals. So in other words, they seem to be more possessive. But this is only what I have witnessed in our dogs.
Mic
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:34 pm
by LarryBeggs
Have been hunting the running dog crosses for about 7 years. Have had one male I no longer own due to aggressiveness with other males. Have also had a female from same cross but different litter that was bad to face bark strange dogs. Not out of aggressiveness but because of shyness to strange dogs. She grew out of it after about a year and a half. Glad we didn't give up on her. Turning into a good little dog. I think there are different reasons a dog face barks. Some times aggressiveness . Sometimes shyness. Sometimes a bad habit from playing that way as a pup. Take care, Larry
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:01 pm
by catdog360
I totally agree with you on the timidness or shy part Larry. I seen more shy dogs act this way. I think it's their way of bluffy others through their fear.
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:06 pm
by Unreal_tk
That's a interesting observation. The dog I had mentioned before is also timid.
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:33 pm
by LarryBeggs
I have seen young dogs grow out of it that were doing it out of a habit or shyness. But It shouldn't be going on past about 2. Or if its causing problems with other dogs especially young dogs.
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:20 am
by mike martell
Here is a good rule of thumb I practice when hunting young hounds until you have them figured out. When approaching the tree, try hanging back far enough so the dogs don't know you are there and sit and watch them for a half hour or so. Like using the Garmin, this will cut the B.S. from the pack. Observe face barking or aggressive behavior and correct with tone or light shock to stop unwanted behavior as it unfolds.
Many times like expressed by Larry, young dogs will grow out of this stage. I think hounds are more prone to crowding the tree more than running dogs. When you have a bunch of dogs jumping at the tree and falling over each other can cause some problems. I like a dog that sits back away from the tree vs. both feet up on the tree.
Running dogs like to run and hounds like to find trees. I also think hounds are more prone to false treeing with all the competition treeing bred into the dogs today.
Mike
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:53 pm
by JTG
Not always but sometimes it's a learned problem from fighting over food and other things when they are puppies. JTG
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:13 pm
by newby
JTG wrote:Not always but sometimes it's a learned problem from fighting over food and other things when they are puppies. JTG
This makes me wonder if there is anyway to nip this in the bud? Do you guys not let your pups scuffle ? Do you discipline them when they're little guys for fighting over toys or whatever...might be having a litter so I'd appreciate any advice. Typically I've just let them wrestle, play rough, fight until they left at around 8 or 9 weeks.
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:26 pm
by sheimer
newby wrote:JTG wrote:Not always but sometimes it's a learned problem from fighting over food and other things when they are puppies. JTG
This makes me wonder if there is anyway to nip this in the bud? Do you guys not let your pups scuffle ? Do you discipline them when they're little guys for fighting over toys or whatever...might be having a litter so I'd appreciate any advice. Typically I've just let them wrestle, play rough, fight until they left at around 8 or 9 weeks.
I don't know if it's real or coincidence, but I never let a dog fight, no matter the age and my dogs don't fight. I end each squabble or even a bark that's rude. I teach them at a young age that aggression is NOT allowed. I am in charge and they are not. I'm not cruel or mean about it, just consistant. There is nothing more annoying or irritating than a dog that thinks they are in charge.
Scott
Re: Curiousity.
Posted: Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:31 pm
by Ker_man
sheimer wrote:newby wrote:JTG wrote:Not always but sometimes it's a learned problem from fighting over food and other things when they are puppies. JTG
This makes me wonder if there is anyway to nip this in the bud? Do you guys not let your pups scuffle ? Do you discipline them when they're little guys for fighting over toys or whatever...might be having a litter so I'd appreciate any advice. Typically I've just let them wrestle, play rough, fight until they left at around 8 or 9 weeks.
I don't know if it's real or coincidence, but I never let a dog fight, no matter the age and my dogs don't fight. I end each squabble or even a bark that's rude. I teach them at a young age that aggression is NOT allowed. I am in charge and they are not. I'm not cruel or mean about it, just consistant. There is nothing more annoying or irritating than a dog that thinks they are in charge.
Scott
I agree with you on that one Scott.