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Who can Answer these?
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:46 pm
by CoonBaumer
I have some questions for coyote hunting with hounds. How long does it normally take for the dogs to get a coyote? Like how long are the runs? Do you need a lot of land to run coyotes because they could be on private land? Lastly, is their a advantage to hunt coyotes with hounds?
Re: Who can Answer these?
Posted: Sun Jan 05, 2014 10:05 pm
by Redbonehunter12
First off you don't always get to kill the coyote! But some coyotes can run for up to 30+ miles, some straight line others might circle in the same woods!! You may need permission from multiple different landowners, and as for advantages I think that some coyotes become call shy but if you run the same coyote multiple times the coyote may get use to that and line straight out and you almost never catch that one. So for me there aren't too many advantages other than the sound of a pack of hounds pounding a coyote through a big hollow!! Hope all this helps
Re: Who can Answer these?
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 6:19 pm
by yotekiller
There are not many clear answers to your questions. It depends on the type of dogs, the type of terrain you are hunting, and the individual coyote.
How long does it normally take for the dogs to get a coyote?
I have ran coyotes for 35+ miles that got away and I have caught coyotes that never ran more than 100 yards. There are a few coyotes that just don't run and want to fight. They end up on the dog box fast.
When I first got dogs the only started dogs I could find were slow or had terrible tracking ability. A coyote being followed by a slow dog will generally lead to a long race. Each year I have bought pups from some of the best stud hounds I could find and raised them myself. Those dogs have made the hunt a different experience entirely. When my young dogs get in a race the slow dogs get left behind and fall off. Usually they will circle in the timber for about 3 miles then straight line out across open fields for a few miles. The coyotes are at a significant disadvantage running straight line in open ground with fast running dogs behind them. The coyote does not get to rest and runs out of gas fast.
It depends on the type of hunting you want to do. If you want to shoot coyotes I would recommend the slower dogs. If you want to catch coyotes the fast dogs get it done for me.
Do you need a lot of land to run coyotes? Yes, you have no control over where the coyote will go.
Lastly, is their a advantage to hunt coyotes with hounds? I enjoy the dogs, they get me out more than I would otherwise. They are expensive to feed, train, equipment, etc.. I may get a few more coyotes in a season than I did before I had dogs, but I am spending a lot more time effort and money too.
Re: Who can Answer these?
Posted: Thu Jan 09, 2014 11:03 pm
by CoonBaumer
Well said Yotekiller! That's exactly what I was looking for! Have you ever heard of coyote denning? If so, will hounds work for that?
Re: Who can Answer these?
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 3:58 pm
by DirtyDave
CoonBaumer wrote:Well said Yotekiller! That's exactly what I was looking for! Have you ever heard of coyote denning? If so, will hounds work for that?
Running Yotes and Den work are 2 completely different things.
For Den work you want an Earthdog. One that can get into the dens and kill and/or flush whats in there. Jagdterriers are great for Den work. They were bred to go to ground on fox and Badgers
Re: Who can Answer these?
Posted: Fri Jan 10, 2014 9:20 pm
by yotekiller
A lot of coyotes hide in a brush pile, pipe, under someones front deck, etc. when they get too much heat on them and can't stay in front of the dogs. A few of my dogs will go in and drag one out to kill it, but they generally get beat up doing it. If I can avoid it I do. I have no experience with terriers but I have a hard time believing they could get a coyote out of a tight space without significant damage to the dog. A large powerful hound with experience killing many yotes has a hard time.
Re: Who can Answer these?
Posted: Sat Jan 11, 2014 11:57 pm
by CoonBaumer
Well said! So how do you find a den? like is there specific places to look for?
Re: Who can Answer these?
Posted: Sun Jan 12, 2014 1:43 am
by DirtyDave
yotekiller wrote:A lot of coyotes hide in a brush pile, pipe, under someones front deck, etc. when they get too much heat on them and can't stay in front of the dogs. A few of my dogs will go in and drag one out to kill it, but they generally get beat up doing it. If I can avoid it I do. I have no experience with terriers but I have a hard time believing they could get a coyote out of a tight space without significant damage to the dog. A large powerful hound with experience killing many yotes has a hard time.
CoonBaumer wrote:Well said! So how do you find a den? like is there specific places to look for?
"Denning" is typically referring to killing pups in the Den for pest control purposes. The maneuverability of a terrier makes a big difference in tight places.
Yotekiller is talking about a yote hiding in culvert or brushpile after the hounds have already been chasing it. This is more Baying up than denning. 2 different things.
Dens are only used to raise pups and can be anywhere. Brush piles, Rock piles, creek/river banks, Round Bale stacks, Under Logs, Under Abandoned Buildings, anywhere that provides cover for the pups.
Re: Who can Answer these?
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:16 pm
by CoonBaumer
Oh okay. Thanks! So do coyotes live in most culverts?
Re: Who can Answer these?
Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 3:36 pm
by DirtyDave
CoonBaumer wrote:Oh okay. Thanks! So do coyotes live in most culverts?
You never know what you'll find in a culvert. Coons and Skunks would be more common than Yotes