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Got an issue with a great strike-Dog that also has speed, but over-runs the track giving mouth in the process. The Garmin is not forgiving and has exposed this fault.

Is there any remedy or am I wasting my time trying??? 3 1/2 year old

Thats a good question to bring up on here... I would correct the dog with an e-collar as soon as I was sure it over shot the track I would nick it with the lowest level and work up but wouldnt go past a three. Might help. The amount of game the dog has been on would help people understand more. If the dog hasnt been on much well its just a old puppy. If the dog has been on a ton of game and hasnt learned to handle a track I would try correcting it and if didnt learn then you know what to do.

Just curious to know how you know the dog is over running the track?

does the dog wind up treeing the track?

The dog has neen on a ton of game, strikes 95% of the tracks but invaribly causes confusion on looses. He does a sweeping loop looking, but mouths during the process. Leave him home and you eliminate this problem.

His hunting style, mouth and striking ability is what keeps the door open for him, but leave him home and there are more tracks completed successfully. Just not as many tracks started.

The Garmin brings clarity to this problem.

"His hunting style, mouth and striking ability is what keeps the door open for him, but leave him home and there are more tracks completed successfully. Just not as many tracks started."




I think if ya read your quote above your answer lies within. As the garmin is unable to tell anyone if the tracks are actually legitimate. There is still a lot of talent necessary on the handlers part. That electronics nor reading the computer are capable of conveying. And although the garmin will let ya know ole blue is over running a real track. By the time it is evident, the time for correction has long past. I'm afraid there is not good news for ole blue. But hey I could be wrong, Cause near as I can figure I aint done much right in a while.



Take care, Willie

I guess we all have been up against similar situations where we wanna side-step the inevitable on the possibility of a maybe. Tough call but thats what makes this sport what it is. I'm not as finished as the dogs need to be, so I wanted to bouce this off of you guys.

Appreciate your input.

ish,


What keeps me going. As pissed as I get at times. Is knowing, that unless the guy upstairs blesses me. With the ability to put my nose on the ground and smell what them dogs smell. I'll never be as finished as the dogs need. But a guy has to keep trying. But your first quote, and your ability to recognize not being as finished as the dogs need. Puts you head and shoulders above a lot. As some could play this game for ever and know no more than when they started.



Take care, Willie

tone him if he barks on a loose.it will tighten him up.if he is actually on track then the tone wont do much harm. he will probably take it as the boss wants me to shut up. good luck.p.s.one of the better cat dogs I have known over ran the track till he was about five then he caught most every cat he jumped. jmo

I have seen a lot of this with running dogs , babbler is what I call one ! but I would rather him spill a little mouth than be tight mouthed, I wonder how old the hounds you have going with him are cause a lot wont pay him any attention if he screws up , trick me once shame on u twice shame on me , unless there young hounds and then I could see your frustration, he is screwing up everything , have had this lots of times also , my take is if he screws it all up and you can still have a race when u go with the other dogs ,somebody else would be feeding him I wouldn't make another trip with him , to many that wont do that, dogs is aggrevating enuf

Funny stuff. S. Fox, you are in a minority of those that are aware of what you speak of. You are also more than aware. Of the free loaders that will stand around at a check and look for a pack member. To show tail and lining out the track, and get their nose up the ones azz doing the work and claiming ok let's go. But I'm betting, as I have said a million times. You didn't nor will anyone see it on the garmin or sitting on the tail gate.


Take care, Willie

Your correct Willie, the Garmin is more confirmation after the fact than revelation during the event.
The true evidence is when the dog is left home and the others don' t end up on as many tracks where we say : "the cat licked his feet and walked off"

I guess the real issue is the babbling, it frustrates me beyond belief.

Is he able to catch the high majority of tracks when by himself?

I'm betting they are young dogs as S. Fox said. As the smart dedicated hard workers will eventually turn the son of a gun off, and ignore him like he had aids. If your getting cats that are licking their feet and walking off or snow gators. You already know what the cure is. Good luck with what ever ya do.


Take care, Willie

Call-me-ish you know what you're hearing, the other dogs are shutting up and when they pick the cat back up its not where this dog is running around barking. I have a trust issue with a hound like that, you know it's opening and not smelling game on a lose, so I can never trust it any time it barks. I have never tryed to cure one of it but i dont have much patience with that particular fault. A babbler is pretty easy to figure out that's what is blowing the race up but one that picks it up and runs it out from the other hounds without saying a thing is a lot harder to figure out what is going on but the garmin helps there. Slowandeasy where I run and I beleive it's the same where southern fox hunts it is about impossible to see any of this, you have to depend on your ears to tell you what is going on, it's not hard if you listen and now the garmin backs up what I'm hearing. I've never seen one that's not a puppy and been on a ton of game like the one we are talking about stop but there is a lot I don't know. If you find a cure please post it.