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Jim Walker in Oregon.
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:50 pm
by Luke J
Wow! have you all got the word on Mr. walkers walker in Oregon. If what they say is true that sucks. I'v got one good dog that came from his place and I just got a pup from him 2 months ago. You can find the article on ktvb.com
Posted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:08 pm
by treeing walkers
can not find a thing can you paste a link on here to get to the article ?? or what the article name was ??
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:02 am
by kickemall
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:06 am
by whoflungdung
Wow 45 dogs.
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:21 am
by treeing walkers
Huh wonder how much of that is true ?? Always heard that he had good dogs and almost bought one from him last year. 45 dogs that is alot of dogs there. I could see three litters and 6-8 adults but wow 45 imagine the feed bill on that !!!!

Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:52 am
by Melanie Hampton
I have bought a dog from him. After trying to contact him about the dog.. It really doesn't suprise me.. Too bad.. He has good lines. If he selected and bred them like they should have been, he probably would have had a great thing going...
Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 6:01 pm
by bearcat
I hunted with some dogs that came from him probably 10 years ago, and some pups out of them. They seemed to be a good line of dogs, but I know nothing about the man himself. I do take a lot of things I read in the news with a grain of salt, however. 45 dogs sounds like a lot but if they are counting puppies and he had say 3 litters of 10 pups apiece on the ground it would mean only 15 grown dogs. Not that I would want to have 3 litters of pups at the same time, just giving a different scenario.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:16 pm
by mixed bunch
just read this about Jim
ENTERPRISE, OREGON -- In an unusual settlement, a Wallowa County saddlemaker has agreed to sell his ranch and livestock and leave the county to avoid jail time for animal abuse.
A judge approved the agreement involving James Walker. He was charged with 45 counts each of second-degree animal neglect and unlawful possession of animals.
Wallowa County officials reached the agreement with him weeks ago.
He also was to make a $10,000 payment to the Wallowa County Humane Society.
Walker was already under court order from a previous abuse case not to own domestic animals for five years.
He has been charged with probation violation for operating a puppy mill on his ranch and selling the dogs over the Internet.
Police found 45 dogs on the property, which were taken to the Wallowa County Humane Society. He forfeited the dogs as part of the agreement.
Posted: Thu Sep 20, 2007 8:20 pm
by Mr.pacojack
Boy thats gonna leave a black eye for us all
dumb
Posted: Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:48 am
by oregonblues
Thats is a bunch of bull I have lived in wallowa and enterprize alot in my life time and the court system is (re dick u less) and over acting I had a six week pup that got out and picked up by the enterprize police and the next day they said that in order to get her back I had to pay a fine and get her fixed cuse of the breed she was. and she had a sister that was picked up and was with pups they wanted to make my friend get the vet to abort the pups I would still like to have some of the blood lines that walker has.I hope he has good luck with that court system
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 7:34 pm
by david
The world is becoming a scary place.
When I was a kid, the reason my mom wouldn't let me sleep out in the yard at night is that she was afraid the horses would come in the yard for the green grass and step on me. Some of them were branded, but most were not. They just roamed the whole area. Even people that kept track of their horses would pasture them for weeks on end and never look at them closely, if they could even catch them without a roundup. And you know what, sometimes a horse might get a foot wrapped in wire or something, but people didn't go to jail for that. I dont think too many people in those parts would have taken the horse to a vet, but Mr. Walker obviously did. And the vet, or someone associated with the vet had him thrown in jail or severly fined for it. I don't even have words for my feelings about that, and if I did, they wouldn't be appropriate for a public forum.
Selling dogs on the internet???!!!??? since when is that illegal.
Every serious BREEDER I have ever known, (and I mean people who actually are able to produce and stabalize a line of animals, and keep the line going and keep improving it) had ALOT of animals. PUPPY MILL??!!??
When did it become illigal for a rancher to have a lot of animals on his ranch????!!!!! Next ranchers are going to be sent to jail for having a LAMB MILL, or a CALF MILL.
Folks, I dont know how to do anything about this, and I fear the wheels are hopelessley in motion in this country, and again, I dont even have words, but this is not good. This is not good. This is not justice. This, in my humble opinion, is evil. It is one more example of "good" being called "evil" and "evil" being called "good". What is happening to this man is NOT "good". And it is only the beginning. This sounds like 1950's Soviet Union and someone in a position of power has it in for this man for whatever reason. Be very very careful people.
Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 11:46 pm
by Bearkiller
david wrote:The world is becoming a scary place.
When I was a kid, the reason my mom wouldn't let me sleep out in the yard at night is that she was afraid the horses would come in the yard for the green grass and step on me. Some of them were branded, but most were not. They just roamed the whole area. Even people that kept track of their horses would pasture them for weeks on end and never look at them closely, if they could even catch them without a roundup. And you know what, sometimes a horse might get a foot wrapped in wire or something, but people didn't go to jail for that. I dont think too many people in those parts would have taken the horse to a vet, but Mr. Walker obviously did. And the vet, or someone associated with the vet had him thrown in jail or severly fined for it. I don't even have words for my feelings about that, and if I did, they wouldn't be appropriate for a public forum.
Selling dogs on the internet???!!!??? since when is that illegal.
Every serious BREEDER I have ever known, (and I mean people who actually are able to produce and stabalize a line of animals, and keep the line going and keep improving it) had ALOT of animals. PUPPY MILL??!!??
When did it become illigal for a rancher to have a lot of animals on his ranch????!!!!! Next ranchers are going to be sent to jail for having a LAMB MILL, or a CALF MILL.
Folks, I dont know how to do anything about this, and I fear the wheels are hopelessley in motion in this country, and again, I dont even have words, but this is not good. This is not good. This is not justice. This, in my humble opinion, is evil. It is one more example of "good" being called "evil" and "evil" being called "good". What is happening to this man is NOT "good". And it is only the beginning. This sounds like 1950's Soviet Union and someone in a position of power has it in for this man for whatever reason. Be very very careful people.
Just one problem with that. If you recognize the changing times and choose to still make bad decisions then you get what you asked for. If he was on probation and violated that probation then he deserves what he gets. I agree with you in principle, however.
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 6:44 pm
by david
Honestly, I think about this thing everyday since reading it.
Here is a man whose family history is rooted here. He obviously has done some hard work and spent a lot of money in developing his line of dogs. I can only immagine he has similar accomplishments with his other animals. His whole lifes work may be tied up in those animals.
Well, one of his animals injures itself. This happens folks. Every ranch or farm I have ever been around has at one time or another come up with sick or injured animals. And at certain times, in certain seasons, and certain situations, every ranch or farm I have ever been around would not neccesarilly notice the injury immediately. This happens. It is unfortunate, and I would not wish this on any animal, but it happens sometimes. The fact that this was made into a criminal offense is the root of all the other issues in this case if I understand it correctly.
Yes, times are changing, laws are changing. But this man is being treated with brutality by legal bullys. Why does he owe the Humane Society $10,000? His fines are over $140,000.00 without the humane society salt in the wound. He broke his probation, well they made his family's lifestyle for the past 100 years illegal. It is the efforts of folks like the Humane Society that have allowed these kind of beleifs to be propogated. And I say "beleifs" intentionally. It is a religion they are promoting. And the religion has it's roots in Hinduism. These attitudes did not come from America or any of it's founding principles.
There was a time when Mr Walker would be given respect for being a hard working rancher, and everyone would feel bad about his horse, but not as bad as Mr Walker when he had to put his horse down.
Animals are slowly being given a place of higher status than that of certain classes of people. I say slowly, because it has taken a couple generations for this religion to get it's foothold. That is because the people who now promote this religion had to be raised on the cultic propoganda since childhood so they could be made numb and blinded to reality. Their reality about animals has come from cartoons and feel good television and movies where the animals are given human qualities and emotions and a soul.
If you want to see the outcome of a society who fully accepts the doctrines which elevate animals above human beings, take a hard look at India. The poverty and starvation in that country is a direct result of this elevation of animals. This is the direction we are headed. In India children starve because their parents allow cows to enter their homes and eat all their food. Their beleif system, which is stronger than any law, does not allow them to interfere. Then they follow the cow around waiting for the blessing of it's urine so they can capture it and wash their face and hands and hair with it.
This man's horse had to die because this man "neglected" it. I am very sorry for the horse, I never enjoy when an animal has to suffer. But this was not intentional. I am also sorry for this man, because every rancher I have ever known feels greif when an animal gets injured or sick and has to die. This was an accident that could have happened to any of us in certain situations. This never would have put a man on parole fifty years ago, and it should not now.
These nazzi like bullies trained up by Walt Disney and the Humane Society have now taken away everything this man has spent his life trying to accomplish and enjoy, and everything his parents spent their lives building and working toward. There are alot of other people out there enjoying his work too, as evidently there are a lot of people hunting dogs that go back to his work. And his dogs, which want nothing more except to run and hunt with out a leash, will never know what everything inside them drives them toward. They will be distributed or killed by the Humane society. The ones that are killed will be the lucky ones, the rest will live their lives completely restrained from what every fiber of their being is telling them to do. This is called "Humane".
The sacred cow has entered Mr Walkers home and ate everything he had for himself and his family. The judge has raised a good portion of his yearly salary, and the cow is headed for your door. If the sacred cow comes into my home, he will only get half of my last loaf of bread. My family will need the other half for making steak sandwiches until it's meat turns sour.
My prayers go out for Mr Walker and his family. This is judicial abuse.
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:44 pm
by Vance M.
The liberal's and the media are always looking for these kind of storys. They get so exited when they here of a story like this they wet them selfs. You can not take the medias point of view serious on these kinds of storys because they always have an agenda.
I have had bad feeling towards the humane society for years. It started when they started stilling good peoples animals and then sell them for their own benefit.
Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:04 pm
by Rockcreek
You want to see how bad the US is becoming turn on Animal Cops.... that show is such a bunch of BS!! I am all for keeping animals well and taking good care of them.... but to listen to some of these people talk and it is like they are talking about murderers and rapists... not dog fighters or some guy that has 6 skinny ass horses....lol! This world is going down hill fast cause everybody is getting so damn soft. John Wayne would be in prison for life.... and that is just sad.